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How to get better audio on a low budget

Discussion in 'Filmmaking' started by Lobbamobba, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    Hey,
    Im working on bettering my audio gear for my hobby productions. I work professionally as a producer/journalist in Radio and TV so Im used to using $2000 microphones and sound booths with mixers that cost more than I make in a year.
    So with that said I very well know that I wont get the "best" stuff with a hobby-budget but Im sure I can get it "good-enough".
    I thought it would be fun to make some videos and show my progress in this for youtube and share with people on forums searching for that cheap short cut to good quality.

    Im doing things in the order of,
    Voiceovers (have a project going on that will require allot of it)
    On Location (shotgun, lav, field recorder and so on)
    Interviews (both for on and of-camera/podcasts)

    Im not only gonna talk gear and money, I will also cover the techniques for capturing audi and making a good interview such as what questions to ask, what attitude to have, how to get people to open up and so on.

    There might be more videos coming if I get suggestions or think of something ells. For instance some people have asked me to do a video about headphones together with my colleague whom is an audio engineer with +30 years of experience.

    I will post the videos as I make them in this post and also in the last of the thread.
    /M

    Part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDhIQOinLoM&list=UUGEmXlJqSg4ykTUNI8YrytQ&feature=player_detailpage
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gDhIQOinLoM?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Part 2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCIzrckttUg
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pCIzrckttUg?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  2. Artorius

    Artorius Mu-43 Regular

    Can't wait to see your on-location video!
     
  3. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    He he, I figured it would be the most popular one :)
    But I really think a lot of hobby videos that I see would gain from just lowering or or cutting the audio, adding music and a voiceover.
    The great thing with that is easier workflow on location.

    Hopefully I will have the next video ready for you within the coming week.
     
  4. Artorius

    Artorius Mu-43 Regular

    I've had to re-record lines for a narrative film off-location before and when you're not working with experienced actors, its hard to get them to recreate the performance in a non-immersive environment.
     
  5. PatrickVA

    PatrickVA Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 31, 2012
    Central Virginia
    That was helpful - thanks. I subscribed to your YouTube channel.
     
  6. twalker294

    twalker294 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 18, 2010
    Great video -- another subscriber here! :)
     
  7. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    Actors are always a problem ;)
     
  8. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    Here is a teaser ;)

    [ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqFpJjA0MrQ]Sennheiser MKE 600 Unboxing - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. yumyum001

    yumyum001 Mu-43 Rookie

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    Jul 5, 2012
    awesome, thanks for doing this
     
  10. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    Part 2 - On Location, is ready

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCIzrckttUg
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pCIzrckttUg?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. madmaxmedia

    madmaxmedia Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 20, 2010
    Thanks for this!

    Interesting that you ultimately chose to put the MKE mic straight into your camera, rather than a separate recorder. Experienced people are always recommending a separate recorder, but I always figured that was much less important than mic placement and then mic quality (as along as you have manual control over gain.)

    It was also interesting to hear the Schoeps mic, it definitely sounded better than the Sennheiser but not very practical for most people due to cost.
     
  12. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    Yes, when I do videos for paying customers I always use a good field recorder (much better then a DR-100 and much more expensive).
    But for my hobby gear which is used to film my friends, dog or vacation I think the Zoom H1 will due for now and I will use it into the Camera to have less stuff to cary.
    But if I see a used dr-100 for a bargin I will probably go for it. And also the zoom h2n could be a cheap alternativ for most enthusiasts.

    The Schoeps is definitly cool, but if someone where to buy it for hobby use I hope they dont use it in a 300 dollar recorder :)
     
  13. PatrickVA

    PatrickVA Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 31, 2012
    Central Virginia
    Thanks for part two! Can you post some photos of your set up? You do a great job of describing at the end (MKE 600 mounted on the GH3, hooked up with cables into the Zoomm, etc.), but it'd be cool to see what that looks like. A consideration is how complex a set up may be, especially in the field.
     
  14. Lobbamobba

    Lobbamobba Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 15, 2013
    Sweden
    No problem,
    This is the mic with the adapter and accesories that came in the box minus the foam pop-filter.
    wp-20130714-001.

    This is with the aditional shockmount, handle and deadcat that came in the bundle where I bought it.
    1wp-20130714-003.
     
  15. PatrickVA

    PatrickVA Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 31, 2012
    Central Virginia
    Thanks!