How are Nikon users reacting...

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by Speedliner, Jan 5, 2016.

  1. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    I wonder how Nikon users are reacting to the D5 and D500 announcements.

    The d500 in particular. More compact, faster and on paper, improved AF to compete with 7dmk2 at 10fps. Fewer MP sensor at 20.9 than the 5500 and 7200. I wonder what reaction that's getting? The 5500 and 7200 produce great IQ. Wonder what that sensor brings to the table to counter fewer mp? They call it their DX flagship so there must be something new and better there.

    Anyway,what interests me us that the 5500 and 7200 produced great IQ, the 5500 is compact and the new AF system has nice specs, so is this a 5500 size body with high IQ and great AF?

    Like I said, I wonder if there is excitement or disappointment in the new bodies.
     
  2. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    I am guessing a big part of it is readout speed. 20.9MP makes it easier to achieve 10fps burst rate than 24MP (which tops out at 6 fps in the D7200). Maybe some improvements in DR or sensitivity, but likely not much in it when you normalize for resolution.

    As far as body size goes, like the 7D II, this is more likely to be an FF-sized body than it is a D5500 sized one. Just look at the D300s.
     
  3. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    The announcement called it "compact" and we know the trend is to shrink size now. Compact compared to what - a d7200 or to the D5?

    I guess we could look at the specs :)
     
  4. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    860g for the body only of the D500. Damn, that thing is HEAVY.

    This personally has no bearing on me and my photography what so ever, but I have seen where DX sport shoots have been clamoring for a successor to the D300S. Well, it looks like they finally got their wish. For the enthusiasts out there though, the D7200 is still going to be fantastic.
     
  5. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    Yeah. The images I've seen from the d7200 are really impressive. D5500 as well. If either gets AF enhancements in the next gen they'll really give the 7dmk2 a run.
     
  6. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    I've gone full FX now and the D500 will only appeal to those who need the added reach. I'd be more interested in a mini D5 with the same AF specs, similar FPS and sensor in a smaller body.
     
  7. Aqualung

    Aqualung Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 10, 2013
    Central Mass
    Chris
    4-5 years ago I was looking to upgrade my D300 - finally had to get a D3s because I got tired of waiting. However, since that time I've opted for my M1 for my travel/go to kit and keep my D3s (2) for sports. Although the D5 (or D500) is tempting, I doubt I'll get it as I'm reducing my sports shooting. Hopefully Oly will continue to improve the M1 AF performance as well.
     
  8. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    Does the crop mode of d810s and such produce similar IQ to APS-C sensors? Just curious. Would deb the best of both worlds if so.
     
  9. davidzvi

    davidzvi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
    David
    It's with in a mm here and there of the D300s. Much bigger than the D7200/D5500. It's actually bigger than the D610 & D750.
     
  10. Speedliner

    Speedliner Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 2, 2015
    Southern NJ, USA
    Rob
    I don't know nikons very well. What does it bring to the table that the d750 and d810 don't already have? D5 sensor and AF at a lower price point? I'm guessing faster fps for now, better low-light performance, but not all d5 bells and whistles? Seems like a big announcement and I know some Nikon users that would cling to their d300s on their death beds, just never understood their place in the world.
     
  11. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Higher burst rate, deeper buffer, better AF, higher pixel density, more robust / pro build quality compared to D750 and D810. Oh, and a touchscreen!

    Just a mini D5 with more reach, essentially.
     
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  12. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    With the D800 DX crop mode, you're close to shooting at 16mp. Though the allure of the D500 is for AF and FPS.
     
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  13. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Yeah, the D500 is meant as a sports/action camera with more reach over the 35mm FF cameras (just like the 7D2). People who have to question what the camera is for, aren't the intended market for the camera.

    I must say though, I compared the size of the D500, D7200, and GH4 on camerasize.com, and man, the Nikon bodies are BIG and heavy (the 7200 weights around 760g, only 100g lighter than the D500).
     
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  14. phigmov

    phigmov Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 4, 2010
    Love my film Nikons and D700 + the great legacy glass but I wouldn't buy a Nikon new (for my needs). Nikon would do well to take a leaf out of Sonys book and get a FF mirrorless onto the market - maybe a FF version of their Nikon 1 range.

    IMO the best thing about these announcements is that they will drive down the price of some great used bodies (eg the D700 & D300) for people that want to try a DSLR camera.
     
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  15. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    Nikon has a strange idea of what 'compact' is. No doubt the D500 will be an excellent camera and appeal to the wildlife and sports crowd, but the size is going to turn off a lot of amateurs. It's also more than a little ironic that just about all the good DX lenses today come from 3rd party manufacturers.
     
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  16. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines
    Dave
    time to score a D4/s... :blush:
     
  17. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Hmm where does small come into it? I thought the D500 is finally, after all these years, supposed to be a D300s successor?
     
  18. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines
    Dave
    Indeed it is. Too late for many. I shifted to FX during the D3 era, so no DX craving ever since. But nevertheless a good addition to the bag.
     
  19. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    Df2?? Perhaps...but to dream! :D
     
  20. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    It's
    It's not really for the amateurs. The D5500 and D7200 are for them. The D500 is for a professional who needs/wants the extra reach, dual card slots and best DX IQ. At least that is how Nikon is marketing it.
     
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