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Hoodman Loupe on a GM1?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by microfourthirdsnut, May 24, 2014.

  1. microfourthirdsnut

    microfourthirdsnut Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 8, 2012
    Anyone try mounting a Hoodman loupe on the GM1?
     
  2. gcogger

    gcogger Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 25, 2010
    UK
    Graeme
    Yes, I have one and it seems to work well. I haven't had much chance to use it yet, however.
     
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  3. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    I have a Hoodman that I bought years ago to use with my E-P1. Personally, I think it's crap. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
     
  4. gcogger

    gcogger Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 25, 2010
    UK
    Graeme
    In what way is it crap?
     
  5. ean10775

    ean10775 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 31, 2011
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Eric
    I've mounted a loupe (not Hoodman though) on my E-PL1 for MF lenses in order to free up the hotshoe for flash triggers. I like it despite the low resolution screen of the E-PL1

    y3yjy6a4.


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  6. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    When looking through the eyepiece, the view is simply magnified, like looking through a cheap plastic magnifying lens and it's not implemented very well either. I've never tried the sort of loupes that videographers use, but I doubt that they'd be happy with the Hoodman I have.
     
  7. gcogger

    gcogger Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 25, 2010
    UK
    Graeme
    What else can a loupe do other than 'simply magnify' the LCD screen? What's different about the ones that videographers use? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't understand what more a loupe could do :)
     
  8. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    I think it depends on what you're comparing to and what your use is? I don't think it's a replacement for a good EVF in most instances, but ean10775's use for it is ideal - as a replacement for an EVF only when you are using your camera in such a way that you don't have access to an EVF (ie, like using a Pen camera with hotshoe flash or trigger, or while video recording with an external microphone plugged into the accessory mic jack).
     
  9. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    I understand that, but I think the implementation is crap. I'm sure that there must be better ways to make it work, so that the screen is covered (the visual side, not the mechanical) in a better way and that the way it's magnified is more subtle. The real intent of the hood is so that you don't have extraneous light interfering with your view of the screen, not to magnify the pixels so that you end up looking at something akin to this:

    screen2.
     
  10. brettmaxwell

    brettmaxwell Mu-43 Veteran

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    Dec 8, 2012
    I've been tempted for my GM1 when I want to shoot in bright daylight, but if I'm going to carry the bulk of a loupe, I'll probably just grab my Nikon.
     
  11. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Steve
    Exactly. I'm sure loupes work. But, with the exception of certain limited applications, I have to think that they kind of defeat the purpose of having a smaller micro four-thirds camera.
     
  12. microfourthirdsnut

    microfourthirdsnut Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 8, 2012
    Thanks for everyones input.
     
  13. bassman

    bassman Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Apr 22, 2013
    New Jersey
    Scott
    Exactly. If you want an EVF, get a camera that has one. Don't get a tiny camera and bolt the Hoodman (which I have and liked to use with my DLSRs) on the back.
     
  14. Geemone

    Geemone Mu-43 Regular

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    Aug 9, 2014
    Germany
    I don't think you can just generalize it like that... .

    I use my GM1 without a lupe as my everyday camera with lenses upt to 45mm, which works in most situations (here in Germany the sun isr not so prominent as for example in Arizona...), which makes it very compact, of course. Most of the times I don't miss an EVF.

    But I also use my GM1 with long lenses such as the Panasonic 100-300 for wildlife photography, or with a 75mm lens for macro, etc. In that case I mostly use my LCD hood with gives me a much better view than with any other EVF I know.
    I know, it's a little bulky compared to the tiny GM1 but by no means awkward to handle or too heavy to carry it with me (which I only do when I know THAT I will use it). Some of those times, I also carry a pistol grip or shoulder brace with me if I don't want to use a tripod - which would be even more clumsy and heavier.

    So to me, the GM1 is a very versatile camera that can be very small and pocketable on one hand but also be converted to a great EVF camera if needed.

    I was thinking of getting a GX7 oder other camera with EVF as a second body but decided to buy a second GM1 body instead. This way if I go out using my long lenses, I can leave one body attached to my telephoto setup and have the other body equipped with the 14mm or 45mm for other shots that might come up. I'm a happy camper... :smile:

    Here's a picture of my LCD lupe attached:

    P1000660.
     
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  15. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Chromatic abberation, distortions like barrel distortion ... look through good binoculars and then through plastic toys at a toy shop.

    Then there is the issue that the rear screen was designed to be viewed as a particular visual size, using a magnifying glass only breaks it up into its visible pixels faster, it does not make it simply bigger. Its for this reason that Mac make their retina displays, so the myopic can stick their face right up to it and not see pixels yet.

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    EVFs have more pixels (usually 1024x768 vs 800x600 on rear screens) so they can appear larger without breakup.
     
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  16. gcogger

    gcogger Mu-43 Veteran

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    May 25, 2010
    UK
    Graeme
    I understand that an EVF is probably better, but what do "the sort of loupes that videographers use" do differently to the Hoodman? Do they not "simply magnify" the view, and therefore have most of the same issues?
     
  17. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    I believe that the loupes used by videographers are of much higher quality, and a much higher price; so they cover the LCD a lot better, with little distortion and other effects.
     
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  18. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Did you not spot the explanation of chromatic ab and other abberations? If you don't know what that means then ask but don't just quote me and restate your question.

    Anyway the GM has more pixel density on the back than a EP1, so it will look less pixelated. I subsequently posted an image to attempt to clear that up, but do ask more specific questions if you have them :)
     
  19. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
  20. Geemone

    Geemone Mu-43 Regular

    64
    Aug 9, 2014
    Germany
    If those lupes were so bad, why do most pros use them then for video, etc. ... ?:thumbup:

    Anyway, if some people don't like the idea of using such a hood on the GM1, why then post here in the first place and not stick to your bulky EM-1s and the likes... ?