HMS Queen Elizabeth

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Here is the Royal Navy's new toy. The Aircraft Carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth was named earlier this month and floated for the first time last week. It is, as is the way with these things, still years away from active service.

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Having taken this picture I went online to find out a bit more about her and found that she's to be stocked with mainly F-35B V/STOL aircraft which is a variant of the Lockheed Lightning II. Various sources say that the vertical takeoff and landing components are so weak that that capability should only be used occasionally but the tyres are poorly designed and don't stand up to repeated conventional takeoffs and landings. HMS Queen Elizabeth also has neither arrestor cables nor ski-jumps so vertical is the only option.

Also apparently the UK has 3 F-35s already (I don't know which variant) but they won't be commissioned until 2018. What the hell are they doing with them? Imagine buying a new car but not using it for 5 years!!??

Here's a joke for you - Military Procurement.
 

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Major,

Thank you. I am such an idiot. Not only did I recite from an earlier reading of Wikipedia, and failed to observe my own photo, I got it entirely wrong. The ship lacks catapults. And, if I'm honest, I don't know the consequences of that although it does seem like a bit of a compromised war ship.

All the best,
 

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Here is the Royal Navy's new toy. The Aircraft Carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth was named earlier this month and floated for the first time last week. It is, as is the way with these things, still years away from active service.

Subscribe to see EXIF info for this image (if available)
P7210602

Having taken this picture I went online to find out a bit more about her and found that she's to be stocked with mainly F-35B V/STOL aircraft which is a variant of the Lockheed Lightning II. Various sources say that the vertical takeoff and landing components are so weak that that capability should only be used occasionally but the tyres are poorly designed and don't stand up to repeated conventional takeoffs and landings. HMS Queen Elizabeth also has neither arrestor cables nor ski-jumps so vertical is the only option.

Also apparently the UK has 3 F-35s already (I don't know which variant) but they won't be commissioned until 2018. What the hell are they doing with them? Imagine buying a new car but not using it for 5 years!!??

Here's a joke for you - Military Procurement.
But it only cost several billion pounds !!!!! what do you expect for such a paultry amount of money?
 

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Major,

Thank you. I am such an idiot. Not only did I recite from an earlier reading of Wikipedia, and failed to observe my own photo, I got it entirely wrong. The ship lacks catapults. And, if I'm honest, I don't know the consequences of that although it does seem like a bit of a compromised war ship.

All the best,
This is a bit off topic for a photography site, but one of the reasons to not use a catapult to launch and the arresting gear to trap the aircraft is airframe stress. Catapults and arrestor gear put huge stresses on the airframe. Historically of course you had to do this or you could only carry limited performance aircraft like the Harrier. In theory the JSF is a high performance aircraft that does not need the catapult to be successful. Catapults are also a pain to maintain, take up a lot of room, etc.

Whether or not the JSF is going to be a successful replacement for the current naval air standard, the F18, remains to be seen :smile:.
 
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