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Help with my conundrum please...

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by soulman, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    Currently have a GF1 with 20mm prime and have decided I can't manage without a viewfinder. i have a budget of £600 (inc selling GF1 body and have several options:

    1. G2 with 14-42 and 45-200 for £380

    2. G3 with 14-42 and 45-200 for £550

    3. GH2 with 14-42 for £550

    Option 1 would allow me to keep the GF1 or get the Oly 45/1.8. I don't have many issues with IQ from the GF1 (high ISO performance occasionally, can't crop when printing big and a slightly low DR) but as my second system (keep a canon 1ds mk2 with L zooms and a prime for paying gigs but its too big for family trips or wandering around with) I can live with that the majority of the time.

    Which way would you go? It'll be used for trips to the zoo, holidays, videos of the kids and maybe some biking. I'll carry it most days so smaller is better mainly but I do prefer the handling of the GH2
     
  2. songs2001

    songs2001 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2011
    G3, it's the smallest of the bunch and you can add a tele.
     
  3. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    If you're reasonably happy with the IQ of the GF1 and like the handling of the GH2 then option 1. What you lose with the G2 over the GH2 is the extra pixels, multi-aspect ratio and better video. If those aren't too important, what you gain is the 45/1.8. I think that's a worthwhile trade.

    Fred
     
  4. dixeyk

    dixeyk Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 9, 2010
    I think the G2 is definitely worth consideration and a look for the 14-45 if you fancy a zoom or a P20/1.7. The G2 is a terrific camera with excellent handling and it's IQ would be the same as what you're getting with the GF1. It has the same EVF as the GH2, is a bit larger than the G3 (but handles a bit better) and the cheapest of the bunch. If you have money left over I'd spend it on better lenses before upgrading the body.

    In case you're worried about the G2's IQ...

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    Panasonic G2 with Olympus 45/1.8


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    Panasonic G2 with P20/1.7
     
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  5. InlawBiker

    InlawBiker Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 1, 2012
    Seattle, WA
    Greg
    It seems like you really need the 50-200mm? If so I would get the G2 or G3 with the two lenses. I have the G3 now, I wouldn't trade it for the GH2. I love it, the size is more important to me than the extra controls. Truth told though I'd be more than happy with ANY of those packages.

    Tomorrow baseball starts for my boys, my G3 + 50-200 is going to get a workout this Spring!

    Greg.
     
  6. moccaman

    moccaman Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 4, 2012
    Australia
    I was in the same position, I wanted a VF for bright light and night time shooting where the screen brightness is annoying, and was not prepared to pay 180 bucks delivered for an LVF1, s/h ones going for 150 bucks on ebay, what a joke.

    I decided on a G2 when I got the chance to buy at a bargain price locally with full factory warranty, 269 bucks was a steal for OZ. Its a great body, I didnt want to sell my GF1 as I love it too much, my plan was/is to keep the 20mm on the GF1 and use the 14-45 and 45-200 with the G2.

    I looked at the G3 but it didnt feel comfortable to hold, its small, but still just as thick as the other SLR style bodies. Because of this the G3 is not pocketable anyway, so the size difference of G2/G3 is meaningless to me.

    I can fit the whole lot in my lowepro Passport sling as well as my tripod and odds n sods, its a great combination of bodies and lenses.

    Oh and you can get the OLY45/1.8 off Ebay for 200 quid, so option one would allow you to have both bodies and all the lenses.
     
  7. jim_khoo

    jim_khoo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 9, 2010
    Kuala Lumpur
    the G3 fits with ALL your requirements perfectly!

    but for me, I would go for the GH2 (at the same price).
     
  8. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    Thanks for your replies, I think I'm going to follow the old advice of glass first and get the G2, one last question, is the 14-45 a much better lens than the 14-42? I could also wait and get the oly 12-50 if it tests well.

    So I'll end up with G2, 20/1.7, 14-45, 45-200 and 45/1.8. Looks like a pretty good setup for covering most eventualities, will the G2's AF keep up with a hyperactive toddler?
     
  9. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 5, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Ad
    I agree with most people, the G2 is an excellent choice. If you still think you prefer the G3, I would first try to have a G3 and a G2 in your own hands before deciding. If my GH2 would perish I'd probably replace it with a G2 because it handles so nicely; I totally disliked the G3, too small and fidgety.

    I cannot compare the 14-45 to other standard zooms from my own experience, but I do know I like it a lot. The first reports on the Oly 12-50mm aren't very impressive on IQ, so I think the 14-45mm is still the MFT standard zoom with the best image quality.
     
  10. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    I have held both and prefer the g2 in terms of handling, in the shop though the AF and touchscreen felt much more responsive on the g3, what I really want is a g2 with g3 sensor and AF (without the cost of the gh2of course ;-/)
     
  11. jim_khoo

    jim_khoo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 9, 2010
    Kuala Lumpur
    totally agree!

    i have both the G2 and G3... and i will be selling the G2 to my colleague.
     
  12. 00r101

    00r101 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 21, 2012
    Buy the G3 with the two zooms. Put the 14-42 on the GF1 and sell it. Keep the 20. You will end up with less than 250 out of pocket and much better IQ and high ISO performance. You will also have the long zoom which works great on my G3
     
  13. Al.

    Al. Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 3, 2010
    Hull, East Yorkshire, UK
    Alan
    If your in the UK , Tesco direct are doing G2 for £199 with 14-42 lens
     
  14. EP1-GF1

    EP1-GF1 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 12, 2011
    Also, assuming UK as well, there's the £50 cashback on camera kits and individual lenses (not the G2 though). The 14-45 is part of the promotion. Details here For what it's worth that lens felt better than the 14-42 but both felt a bit clunky.
     
  15. p.h

    p.h Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 5, 2012
    Just to point out there is another option. With prices plummeting you could buy a GX1 with the standard 14-42 and the optional viewfinder. It actually comes to £679, but there an offer of £50 cashback and a free copy of Lightroom 3 which should sell easy.
    I don't know what it was that attracted you to the GF1 in the first place, the GX1 has the same feel and seems to deal with high ISO a lot better.
     
  16. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    The more I think about it the more I come down on the side of IQ and portability, i will probably go for the G3...
     
  17. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    Initially the price, I bought it at a cracking price with the 20mm prime, I just didn't realise hw much I'd miss a viewfinder
     
  18. soulman

    soulman Mu-43 Rookie

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    Aug 24, 2010
    Sheffield
    Des
    Well done the deal and bought a G3, will now start saving for the 45-200 and Oly 45/1.8...
     
  19. pcake

    pcake Mu-43 Regular

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    May 3, 2010
    congrats! i went through the same process - fell in love with the GF1, but ultimately decided i HAD to have a viewfinder, and the detachable one isn't great (although a lot better than nothing). i just got a G3, which i love using my 45-200 with it. image quality is a bit better, which is a nice plus.