Help with Lightroom

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So I'm still relatively new to Lightroom (and photography in general) but I just wondering why people before would say that Lightroom does not support .orf raw files? Or that it does not support em-10 raw files? I've always been able to edit the images. Is there some other features more specific to the camera that I don't know about? Basically what do they mean when they say Lightroom does not support a certain camera or a cameras raw files?

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Raw files don't have a standard format and differ from one camera to the next. Raw processors such as Lightroom need to have specific code to handle each camera. Lightroom handles many Oly raw files (.orf), but I think the e-M10, being a new camerra, isn't yet supported.
 

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There is almost always a delay in getting raw support for new cameras. That's true for Lightroom, Aperture and all the rest.
 

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It's not a question of delay to support new cameras.

The E-M10 is supported by Adobe Camera Raw 8.4, which has exactly the same RAW processing as Lightroom.
Lightroom and ACR are always released together... except this time;)
There was no Lightroom 5.4 when ACR 8.4 was out.
 

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So I'm still relatively new to Lightroom (and photography in general) but I just wondering why people before would say that Lightroom does not support .orf raw files? Or that it does not support em-10 raw files? I've always been able to edit the images. Is there some other features more specific to the camera that I don't know about? Basically what do they mean when they say Lightroom does not support a certain camera or a cameras raw files?

Thanks everyone!

-seb
First off I Must ask, if you know what a Raw file is; because when you say "I've always been able to edit the images" I wonder if you are just shooting *.jpg files only. You see, jpeg files are a standard file format that no one would have any problem with editing in any program from any camera. A RAW file can have many different extensions. It is basically the digital negative equivalent of an image and can be different from camera to camera.
 

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A raw file is not really an image. It's data that is used to produce an image.
You don't edit it, you post process it.
And you don't visualize it, you can only see an interpretation of its data based on current settings.
 

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It's not a question of delay to support new cameras.

The E-M10 is supported by Adobe Camera Raw 8.4, which has exactly the same RAW processing as Lightroom.
Lightroom and ACR are always released together... except this time;)
There was no Lightroom 5.4 when ACR 8.4 was out.
And your conclusion is...?
 

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That they are preparing something else for the next version of lightroom (5.4? 6.0?) and that we are waiting for that.
Not for them to get to know how to support the e-m10 and the other cameras that are included in acr 8.4.
 

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That they are preparing something else for the next version of lightroom (5.4? 6.0?) and that we are waiting for that.
Not for them to get to know how to support the e-m10 and the other cameras that are included in acr 8.4.
It is what it is. I have been using LR since before v.1 and there have been plenty of delays, rational and otherwise. As you point out, there's a lot more going on with LR than with ACR.
 

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First off I Must ask, if you know what a Raw file is; because when you say "I've always been able to edit the images" I wonder if you are just shooting *.jpg files only. You see, jpeg files are a standard file format that no one would have any problem with editing in any program from any camera. A RAW file can have many different extensions. It is basically the digital negative equivalent of an image and can be different from camera to camera.
I have been shooting in raw format. Since I've had my camera the .orf files load fine into Lightroom and I'm able to edit them.
 

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Modifying the raw files is not the best thing to do imho...
You've got to modify them the other way when the update is available.
Or else you'd miss every e-m10 specific support... And all e-m10 color profiles.
 

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http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/

Lightroom 5.4 is now available as a final release on Adobe.com and through the update mechanism in Lightroom 5. The goal of this release is to provide support for Lightroom mobile, additional camera raw support, lens profile support and address bugs that were introduced in previous releases of Lightroom.

Release Note

New Camera Support in Lightroom 5.4

Canon EOS 1200D (REBEL T5, KISS X70)
Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II (*)
Casio EX-100
DJI Phantom
Fujifilm X-T1
Hasselblad H5D-50c
Hasselblad HV
Nikon 1 V3 (*)
Nikon COOLPIX P340
Nikon D3300
Nikon D4S
Olympus OM-D E-M10 (*)
Panasonic LUMIX DMC-ZS40 (DMC-TZ60, DMC-TZ61)
Phase One IQ250
Samsung NX mini (*)
Samsung NX30
Sony Alpha a5000 (ILCE-5000)
Sony Alpha a6000 (ILCE-6000)
* denotes preliminary support

Added Camera Matching color profiles (PROVIA/STANDARD, Velvia/VIVID, ASTIA/SOFT, MONOCHROME, etc.) for the following Fujifilm cameras:

Fujifilm X-A1
Fujifilm X-E1
Fujifilm X-E2
Fujifilm X-M1
Fujifilm X-S1
Fujifilm X-T1
Fujifilm X-Pro1
Fujifilm X10
Fujifilm X20
Fujifilm XF1
Fujifilm XQ1
Fujifilm X100
Fujifilm X100S
New Lens Profile Support in Lightroom 5.4

Mount Name
Apple Apple iPhone 5c
Canon Canon EF 200-400mm f/4 L IS USM
Canon Canon EF 200-400mm f/4 L IS USM EXT
Canon Canon EF-S 18-55mm /3.5-5.6 IS STM
Canon Canon EF-S 25-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II
Canon Sigma 24-105mm f/4 DG OS HSM A013
Canon Zeiss Otus 1.4/55 ZE
DJI Phantom Vision FC200 (for raw files)
Fujifilm Fujifilm X100S
GoPro GoPro Hero3+ Black Edition
Nikon Nikon 1 NIKKOR 6.7-13mm f/3.5-5.6 VR
Nikon Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR II
Nikon Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G ED
Nikon Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G ED
Nikon Nikon COOLPIX P340
Nikon SIGMA 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM A013
Nikon Zeiss Otus 1.4/55 ZF.2
Sigma SIGMA 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM A013
Sony E Sony E PZ 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 OSS
Sony FE Sony FE 24-70 f/4 ZA OSS
Sony FE Sony FE 70-200mm f/4 G OSS
Sony Alpha Sony 20mm F2.8
Sony Alpha Sony 24mm F2 ZA SSM
Sony Alpha Sony 35mm F1.4 G
Sony Alpha Sony 35mm F1.4 G
Sony Alpha Sony 50mm F1.4
Sony Alpha Sony 50mm F1.4 ZA
Sony Alpha Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro
Sony Alpha Sony 85mm F1.4 ZA
Sony Alpha Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM
Sony Alpha Sony 135mm F1.8 ZA
Sony Alpha Sony DT 11-18mm F4.5-5.6
Sony Alpha Sony DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM
Sony Alpha Sony DT 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 ZA
Sony Alpha Sony DT 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 SAM II
Sony Alpha Sony DT 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 SAM
Sony Alpha Sony DT 30mm F2.8 Macro SAM
Sony Alpha Sony 50mm F1.8 SAM
Sony Alpha Sony DT 55-200mm F4-5.6 SAM
Sony Alpha Sony DT 55-300mm F4.5-5.6 SAM
Bugs Corrected in Lightroom 5.4

When switching to the Book module with images selected, a ‘Gathering Photos’ message would appear and stay persistent.
On Mac Lightroom activity, such as an export, did not prevent the computer from sleeping.
In the Develop Module, the ‘Settings > Crop as Shot’ menu item did not properly reset orientation.
In the Develop Module and when applying Grain, occasionally vertical artifacts would appear along the bottom edge of a photo.
In the Develop Module, there is a slight delay before the Histogram is available for adjustments.
Lens profile corrections for the iPhone 5 would not be selected when using the ‘Auto’ Lens profile correction feature in the Develop module.
In the Develop Module, Scrubby Adjustments on Adjustment Brush Pins did not work as expected.
Syncing of spot removals was not consistent from image to image.
Exporting a scaled image to PSD would sometimes cause the watermark to be displayed incorrectly.
When Don’t Enlarge is on in Export, image was not resized, even when making image smaller.
Sharpening/Noise Reduction were applied inconsistently depending on crop and export image size.
Luminance of exported file differed noticeably after crop.
When adding keywords on Import, Import begins at once when keywords entered with ‘enter’ key
In the Import dialogue, Loupe view occasionally did not work.
When using the “Edit in Photoshop” feature in Lightroom, the Smart Object filter mask was sometimes not previewed correctly within Lightroom.
When creating a new Collection inside of a Collection set, the default option for Location was the parent of the selected collection set and not the selected collection set.
Upload via publish does not prevent computer from sleeping, and upload fails if computer sleeps.
When playing a slideshow comprising TIF or JPEG images, occasionally the slideshow would appear pixelated.
The color profile of a photo was incorrect when playing slideshow in full screen mode.
When using a video export preset, develop settings were not applied to all images.
Smart preview indicator under Develop histogram displayed the wrong number when multiple photos were selected.
Download Links:

Lightroom 5.4:

Windows – http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=5741

Mac – http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=5740
 
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