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help with indoor settings please

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Ig7, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Total disaster while trying to document a surprise party for a friends with EM-5 and 12-35. The photo below is one of the better ones that I got. Did not want to use the flash. Did not do any better with the sequential mode either.

    PA060084a.

    Any suggestion?
     
  2. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    I have checked your EXIF this picture was shoot with ISO 500 aperture 2.8 and shutter speed of 0.6 second.
    Try to shoot in Shutter priority mode and set it to 100 set the ISO to Auto with a limit of 1600 or 3200 depends on your taste for noise.

    I was shooting a party with the P20 at f/1.7 ISO 200 and aperture at 125 to 200 with very good results. With the OM you can raise the ISO to 1600 without getting much noise.
     
  3. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    I knew I should have taken the P20
     
  4. metalmania

    metalmania Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 19, 2012
    NYC
    It's nothing to do with P20. Your ISO setting is a total mess.
     
  5. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    The P20 is great but it is only 1.5 stop faster.Bumping the ISO higher will give you additional 2 stops that will enable you to shoot at shutter speed of 60 which is enough to freeze slow movements at a party.
     
  6. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    I had the ISO set to auto with the limit set at 1600 and then 3200 in the settings. For most of the shots camera picked iso around 500. I tried IAuto and P modes and that did not push the ISO much higher then that. But even in Candle mode at ISO 1600 it is still awful

    PA060099a.

    I was thinking that I should have used S mode and set the ISO to 3200 or higher?
     
  7. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Just saw your post after I already posted mine above. Thats what I was thinking too. Now need to find another surprise party to go to:smile:
     
  8. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    With m43 it is best to use only P.A.S.M you get more control on your camera and photos. I suggest for you to get the book "Bryan Peterson - Understanding Exposure 3rd Edition 2010" this is a great book and your control of the camera will be much better after you read and practice according to it. This book really helped me to master the camera and making me a better photo shooter.
     
  9. MajorMagee

    MajorMagee Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2011
    Dayton, OH
    Low light with no flash needs, wide angle, large aperture, high ISO, and not too much going on in the way of fast movements.

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    E-PL1 with PL20mm at f1.7, 1/60 sec, ISO 1000
     
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  10. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    I should have brought my P20 :mad:
     
  11. dukenukem

    dukenukem Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 9, 2012
    Spain
    ISO 6400 is your friend ;)
     
  12. jamespetts

    jamespetts Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 21, 2011
    London, England
    How far zoomed in were you? You'll get much more subject movement and camera shake at longer focal lengths. You could try keeping the lens at 20mm or below.

    However, you might be better just using the 20mm lens that you have to give you a wider aperture and using a higher ISO; the combination of the shorter focal length, the higher ISO and wider aperture should help you to get less subject blur and camera shake. If you have the 25mm f/1.4 lens, even better.
     
  13. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Live and learn! Thanks everyone for the input
     
  14. RnR

    RnR Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 25, 2011
    Brisbane, Australia
    Hasse
    As was mentioned above, in your case nothing to do with the lens. Play with the 'exposure triangle'...

    E-PL1 with PL20mm at f1.7, 1/60 sec, ISO 1000

    OR

    E-M5 with 12-35mm at f2.8, 1/60 sec, ISO 2500
     
  15. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    I will, thank you.
     
  16. Chrisnmn

    Chrisnmn Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 26, 2012
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Chris
    flash could be an amazing friend if you could do two simple steps.

    a) you can bounce it to the selling or wall NOT straight to your subject.
    b) if you dont have a fnacy flash with a head that can do point A positions, then use the OMD kit flash and just use a white napkin (available at most parties across the globe) and put it in front of the flash every time to click the shutter. the napkin will work as a softbox and youll be amazed by the results and you can stay way below ISO 1000.

    my $000000.2 cents.
     
  17. Ig7

    Ig7 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Aug 24, 2011
    Great idea. Thank you