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Help .....longer than Olympus 12-40?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by woollyback, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. woollyback

    woollyback Mu-43 Veteran

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    Oct 20, 2015
    Rob
    so as I see it for a medium telephoto

    Panasonic 35-100 or
    Olympus 40-150 R or

    The rolls Royce

    Olympus 40-150 f2.8 pro

    Pros and cons please folks

    Looking for sports, aviation and general photography

    Thanks for any info

    Rob
     
  2. JensM

    JensM Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 6, 2016
    Oslo(ish), Norway
    As screename
    Which one of the Panasonics 35-100? :)
     
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  3. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
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  4. Carbonman

    Carbonman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jul 10, 2014
    Vancouver BC
    Graham
    I have both the 40-150 R and the 40-150 Pro; the R is an incredible lens for the cost and size. It's actually quite sharp, the big downfall being the maximum aperture at 150mm.
    The 40-150 Pro is very sharp at all apertures and the constant f2.8 maximum aperture makes it usable in fairly low light levels, just like the 12-40. Add the 1.4 TC and you have a lens with f4.0 available at all focal lengths and virtually no loss of resolution. Apart from the big $$ you have the greatly added weight of the Pro over the R - 880g vs 190g.
    For freezing fast action, added sharpness to accommodate cropping and the quicker autofocus, you can't beat the Pro version. It's just 6x the cost and 4-1/2 times the weight!
    Edit: The 1.4 TC gives you an over 8 power telephoto for reach that is only bettered by a few 4/3rds lens + TC or m43 tele options.
     
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  5. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    I have the slow version of both these lenses. I agree with Carbonman on the 40-150 R, great lens and light. The Panasonic 35-100 4-5.6 is a remarkably small lens that produces very sharp results.
     
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  6. Replytoken

    Replytoken Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 7, 2012
    Puget Sound
    Ken
    I have both Oly 40-150's and the compact 35-100 from Panasonic. I like them all, but the 40-150 Pro is just a notch above in terms of IQ. It is now the lens I reach for unless size is paramount. Removing the collar also slims its profile if necessary. It reminds me a lot of my Nikon 70-200 VRII, and that was one of my favorite lenses. I used the R version for a few years and have some great shots, but I also have my share of images that could just lack in contrast.

    Good luck,

    --Ken
     
  7. woollyback

    woollyback Mu-43 Veteran

    203
    Oct 20, 2015
    Rob
    Thanks all,

    I was thinking about the f4/5.6 version of the panasonic.

    The 40-150 f2.8 is probably like a 70-200 f4 canon and I wanted to stay small and light and get the medium telephoto for days out and about without too much kit

    But if I end up getting the 40-150 f2.8 eventually I might as well just go for it now?

    Decisions decisions
     
  8. skellington

    skellington Mu-43 Regular

    171
    Mar 4, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    Keith
    Which body do you have?

    Would the 75-300 or 100-300 be useful, and perhaps continue to be useful after you (eventually) get the 40-150?

    And while not the highest image quality, the 14-140s seem to be pretty popular for when you only want to carry one lens.

    If you're shooting Panasonic, the 45-175 comes highly recommended and is stabilized.

    And there's always the Olympus 75.
     
  9. PakkyT

    PakkyT Mu-43 Top Veteran

    764
    Jun 20, 2015
    New England
    Check out this light hearted video comparing the Oly 40-150/2.8 to the Panny 35-100mm/2.8. Gives a nice comparison, especially physical size...

     
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  10. magicaxeman

    magicaxeman Mu-43 Regular

    76
    Feb 27, 2016
    Essex UK
    Ian
    The nearest would be the canon 70-200 f2.8, but you get an extra 100mm focal length.
    With the TC you'd need to find a 112mm - 420mm f4

    In short there is no other 80-300mm zoom available from any manufacturer let alone one thats a constant f2.8.

    Its a cracking lens and a purchase I doubt I'll ever regret.
     
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  11. damianmkv

    damianmkv Mu-43 Veteran

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    Nov 7, 2014
    Surrey, England
    I had the p35-100 2.8 - it was a great lens, nice and compact too. Have just sold it together with the 75-300 ii and bought the 40-150 pro + TC, a lens that I said I'd never get. Eventually, I realised that I didn't really like the softness of the 75-300 over 285mm and it was pretty slow too...the p35-100 lacked reach so I ended up going for it - 1 less lens but same weight in my bag...

    So ( having rambled ), if I was you I'd go for the pro lens but buy used if you can find a mint copy. The size of the lens will still make you go "woooaahh" when you see it but it's great.
     
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  12. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    I repeat what @kevinparis@kevinparis suggested. If you are shooting an EM1 you can not beat the 50-200 SWD. It gives a bit more reach then the 40-150 Pro, actually about the same as the 40-150 with the TC. If you add the EC-14 you get even more reach without giving up any IQ. As far as IQ goes, the 50-200 is as good if not maybe a bit better then the 40-150. You can even pick up the the EC-20 and have poor mans version of the Pany 100-400.

    Here is a link to a thread I created that list all the threads I have started about using the 50-200 or 150/2 for action and wildlife photography. The 2nd to last thread listed is about using the 50-200 with the EC-20 with lots of image samples.

    Using the EM1 with 4/3 Lenses for Sports/Action/Wildlife Photography
     
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  13. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Walter
    Hi Woolyback, As some others have, I ended up buying a 4/3rds Zuiko 50-200 SWD + EC-14 teleconverter + MMF-3 adaptor for my EM1. For several reasons: the EM1 is well suited for this lens because of its PD-AF sensors, I needed the reach to shoot kids soccer games and other things, and my combo of used items was about $1,000 cheaper than a new 40-150 Pro + MC-14 teleconverter and gave me more reach. You didn't say what body you have, but if you don't have an EM1, this is not a choice for you. If you do, then it is a possibility. It produces great images and although it may not be as fast at AF as the 40-150 Pro, it's pretty darn close. Altogether, it's also a bit bigger and heavier than the 40-150 Pro. I have the little 40-150 R and love it for its small size and weight. Perfect for travel.

    Sure, if you wanted just one telephoto zoom and 210mm is enough reach (with the MC-14), the 40-150 Pro is a great choice. You won't regret it.
     
  14. curtisls87

    curtisls87 Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 7, 2010
    Los Gatos, CA, USA
    Curt Schimmels
    With the considerations you gave in your original post, there are still some additional considerations. Portability vs quality vs budget, for example. While I've owned the 40-150R, and currently own the 40-150 Pro, there are times when I wish I hadn't given my R to my son-in-law. The Pro is a fantastic lens, and if money is no object, I highly recommend it. On the other hand, while it is small for what it is, it may not be as usable in certain circumstances. You mentioned sports photography as a consideration, and that is a pretty wide open area. If you're a pro, shooting from the sidelines of a football game, soccer game, etc, and can afford it, the Pro would be the way to go. However, if you're shooting from the stadium seats at college or pro games, many venues won't let you bring in "pro" gear, but they'd never suspect the little 40-150R.

    It really boils down to the old saying, quality, price, speed - pick 2. ;)
     
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  15. rfortson

    rfortson Mu-43 Veteran

    Get the 40-150/2.8 refurbished at Olympus Outlet for an extra 20% off. Good until tomorrow or maybe Wednesday, but the stock goes fast.
     
  16. woollyback

    woollyback Mu-43 Veteran

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    Oct 20, 2015
    Rob
    That's the thing I am sure I will end with this lens eventually so maybe I should go straight for that. Since I have sold my canon gear I have missed the 70-200, 100-400 range but have decided I will wait for a while longer to get the pana 100-400 or Olympus 300 to cover the longer end.

    I am looking for a balance between IQ and portability with IQ the major consideration
     
  17. woollyback

    woollyback Mu-43 Veteran

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    Oct 20, 2015
    Rob
    Guess its quality and portability for me so its looking like a jump straight to the pro I guess
     
  18. woollyback

    woollyback Mu-43 Veteran

    203
    Oct 20, 2015
    Rob
    Brilliant thank you - I am shooting the M1

    I had not even thought about this one - will look into it :)
     
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  19. PakkyT

    PakkyT Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jun 20, 2015
    New England
    A great lens. In fact, it is the 50-200mm that kept me from jumping to m43 for as long as I did. Until the E-M1 came out, I wasn't ready to jump to m43 where none of the cameras would properly support the 50-200mm and at the time there were no m43 lenses that were even close to matching the 50-200mm's performance. I wasn't about to leave that lens behind (so to speak).
     
  20. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Oh, I guess I should also pitch my favorite lens ever the 4/3 ZD 150mm f/2.0. I have only used my 50-200 once since getting the 150 and that just so I could test it with the EC-20 (which resulted in that thread linked above). You can find a lot of examples of my results in that thread linked above. It works amazingly well with either TC and honestly is the best lens I have ever used. When things slow down I want to shoot more sports (particularly rodeo) so the 50-200 is going to get more use (the 150 is to much reach in a lot of the small local rodeo arenas).

    The 150 with TCs gives you amazing options and provides the following equivalent lenses:

    300mm f/2.0
    420mm f/2.8
    600mm f/4.0

    A little expensive (especially with both TCs) but well worth it