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Help! compare pl45 and Oly60

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by beanedsprout, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. beanedsprout

    beanedsprout Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 13, 2013
    north central Ohio
    In the mood for a Macro. I'm torn between the PL 45 and the Oly 60. I'd love to use this for portraits as well, and I'm trying to find a lens that has very pretty bokeh. I already have the Oly 45 so this thread is only comparing the PL45 and the 60. Not really interested in the 75 at the moment, would rather save up for a GX7 (still wondering where 2-6 went).

    Anyway I know the Leica is sharp, which is great for shooting wide open (2.8 really isn't that wide, I know), but the Oly is $100 cheaper and I could pick up some legacy glass someplace that is just as sharp and has great bokeh. Any of those suggestions would be well appreciated (although not exactly in line with this sub-forum). But yeah, post some portrait shots with either of the two lenses wide open, specifically with any specular highlights in the background.
    An example :
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    Thanks!
     
  2. BAXTING

    BAXTING Mu-43 Top Veteran

    806
    Aug 5, 2012
    Los Angeles SFV, CA
    Bradley
    I have the PL45 and I love it although its main use is for product photography. There is some decent subject separation when shooting portrait style wide open, but possibly not what you are looking for.

    I'd imagine the 60mm at $100 cheaper may do a little better with that because of the added focal length. I like the PL45 becasue I am only using it on Panny bodies at the moment and it is somewhat shorter in length which is nice. Also OIS if you care about that.

    At the moment I have a Vivitar 100mm f/2.8 which works pretty decent for portrait stuff. I almost never whip out the PL45 for that though. In fact the Oly45 really excels in that regard. Both of these lenses wont deliver anything as nice as the Oly45 so unless you are looking for a macro specific lens I would say neither.

    This is only my experience of course.

    B
     
  3. minh2pac

    minh2pac New to Mu-43

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    Mar 29, 2013
    60mm right now have $100 rebate. So at $400 I'd go with Oly 60mm
     
  4. garfield_cz

    garfield_cz Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 9, 2011
    Czech Republic
    Pavel
    From macro photography point of view Oly 60mm has bit better bokeh, but PL45 is sharper. Oly 60mm has much more usable focus limiter switch and I am frequently using it for quick access 1:1 magnification. Unfortunately PL45 focus can't be limited to macro, thus it is causing slight focus hunting for close distances. Over all Oly 60 seems to be targeted more seriously to macro shooting, because it has magnification scale and better focus limiter switch. On other hand 60mm field of view is narrow an PL45 wider FOV is better for some applications.

    Choice is yours :wink:
     
  5. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    You already have a 45mm so the 60 gives you macro and another focal length. As for the depth of field issue... If you frame the picture the same, that is same image size at different distances, f/2.8 will have the same depth of field at any focal length.

    For me, the only reasons to consider the PL45 would be for OIS or the "look" of the images.

    Fred
     
  6. htc

    htc Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 11, 2011
    Finland
    Harry
    From DxOMark point of view they both look good to me. Only one has any kind of IS, if you don't have it already.
     

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  7. MarylandUSA

    MarylandUSA Mu-43 Regular

    184
    Jul 3, 2013
    Poolesville, Maryland
    Paul Franklin Stregevsky
    older Olympus 50/2 macro lenses

    Since you want bokeh for portraits, consider two older Olympus 50mm macros:
    1. 50mm f/2 Digital ED macro, an AF lens designed for full Four Thirds.
    2. Auto Macro Zuiko 50/2 (manual focus).

    Look how well Photozone members rated each Olympus 50/2 compared with 24 manual-focus 50 and 55mm lenses (performance wide open / stopped down); I've omitted lenses slower than f/2:

    91/100 Carl Zeiss Planar T* 55/1.2
    91/94 Olympus Four-Thirds DIgital ED 50/2 Macro
    90/98 Leica M Summikcron 50/2
    87/100 Leica R 50/1.4 1997 (3 votes)
    87/94 Konica Hexanon M 50/2 (11 votes)
    84/98 Leica R 50/2 1979 (17 votes)
    82/94 Leica M Elmar 50/2.8
    81/98 Olympus OM 50/2 Macro
    81/96 Canon FD 50/1.2 L
    81/96 Voigtlander Nokton 50/1.5
    77/96 Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50/1.4
    77/96 Carl Zeiss Planar T* 50/1.7 (same)
    74/91 Minolta MD 50/1.4 MC (20 votes)
    73/94 Olympus Zuiko MC 50/1.2 (4 votes)
    73/91 Leica M Noctilux 50/1
    72/94 Nikon Nikkor AI-S 50/1.4 (48 votes)
    72/91 Nikon Nikkor AI-S 50/1.4 for APS-C
    71/90 Olympus Zuiko MC 50/1.8
    70/95 Leica M Summilux 50/1.4
    70/92 Canon FD 50/1.4
    69/87 Minolta MD 50/1.7 MC (25 votes)
    66/97 Olympus Zuiko MC 50/1.4 (18 votes)
    62/87 Pentax SMC-A 50/2 (APS-C DSLR) (1 vote)
    58/82 Canon FD 50/1.8
    56/94 Minolta MD 50/1.2 (8 votes)
    45/85 Leica R 50/1.4 1979 (17 votes)
     
  8. WasOM3user

    WasOM3user Mu-43 Veteran

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    Oct 20, 2012
    Lancashire, UK
    Paul
    As you already have the O45 I would not duplicate the focal length with the P45 which leaves the O60.

    However just to do macro with this lens (I personally would think it's not really different enough to the O45 for portraits) . It's still a fair amount of funds to find unless you are serious about lots of macro work.

    Other options you could consider if you want to "dabble" with macro are kenko (or others) ext tubes with your O45 or a legacy 90-100mm macro lens (Tamron, Tokina, Nikon etc.) which will give nice boken and a greater working distance for macro or even the close focus abilities of the O12-50 which is better than I thought it would be.

    The tubes or legacy would be easier on the wallet and if you then later decide to purchase the P45/O60 because you are doing lots of macro you should be able to recoup nearly all the costs selling them on.

    Personally I don't mind the MF for macro work as it not always easy to get the camera to focus automatically where you to for the DOF you want
     
  9. Serhan

    Serhan Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 7, 2011
    NYC