Hasselblad X1D - Mirrorless Medium Format

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by TNcasual, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. AgentMichaelScarn

    AgentMichaelScarn Mu-43 Regular

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    May 27, 2016
    Very interesting.....looking forward to more equivalence discussions! Think of how many stops better we could be as photographers. What's the crop factor from fuller frame :biggrin: to full frame? If 80mm = 50mm then is it x1.6? And if 80mm = 25mm then x3.2 for M43?
     
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  2. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Probably it's "only" a 44x33mm sensor, like the Pentax 645Z, so it would only be 0.77x crop factor. So a similar difference between the Hasselblad and FF as there is between M4/3 and APS-C. Not sure how exciting that is. But it might be a great opportunity to use all kinds of fun 645 lenses with adapters and maintain a reasonable crop factor on them. Film 6x4.5 is 0.61x crop factor, so it's not too crazy...
     
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  3. JensM

    JensM Mu-43 Regular

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    I like the looks of that, reminds me of the Fuji GW670. The price tag dampens the lust for it, though.
     
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  4. nstelemark

    nstelemark Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 28, 2013
    Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
    Larry
    Full Frame Mirrorless indeed. This is great all the A7 owners will have to upgrade immediately!
     
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  5. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    It does for me, too, but compared to current Hasselblad options it is very cheap.
     
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  6. JensM

    JensM Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 6, 2016
    Oslo(ish), Norway
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    And a fellow needs only one kidney...

    Hmmm... :whistling:

    Have been having naughty thoughts about medium frames lately, but that will be based around 120 film, I gather...
     
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  7. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Haha, but the 45mm/f3.5 and 90mm/f3.2 are "only" 35mm/f2.8 and 70mm/f2.5 equivalents in 135-format...
     
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  8. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Surely medium format and large format have been mostly mirrorless the whole of the life of photography ...
    and Alpa (& others) have had digital technical cameras for ages.
    (Go to Get-DPI forum for threads upon threads on that stuff, I'm way too stingy to own any of it.)
     
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  9. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    First autofocus medium format mirrorless digital camera with anything resembling the convenience and functionality of an integrated camera.

    Do those digital Alpas even have built in meters? (In jest, but only partly...).

    The fact that it's under $10K is also pretty radical for that space.
     
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  10. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    Ricoh has been there for a while with the Pentax 645Z
     
  11. TNcasual

    TNcasual Mu-43 All-Pro

    Dec 2, 2014
    Knoxville, TN
    Pleasantly surprised at the physical size. It seems comparable to the Leica SL - while not small, pretty compact for medium format.

    Not that I would ever be in the market for such a thing.
     
  12. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    There's already comments about this camera on various websites by "full frame" users that sound like mu43 users saying "full frame" isn't really a big step up in quality. :)
     
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  13. AgentMichaelScarn

    AgentMichaelScarn Mu-43 Regular

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    May 27, 2016
    Well, the lenses have smaller apertures than their FF equivalent. How are you supposed to take good pictures then?
     
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  14. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    Oh boy! A whole new equivalence conversation;)
     
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  15. MAubrey

    MAubrey Photographer

    Jul 9, 2012
    Bellingham, WA
    Mike Aubrey
    Heh. Nice.

    Though in fairness, FF is only a .78x crop of this "MF" sensor, while μ43 is .5x. Even 645 is only .62x so...

    We'd need a mirrorless 6x7 to achieve the same difference in size.
     
  16. tkbslc

    tkbslc Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    They are only f1.4 and f1.8 in 4/3 terms. And we all know you can't control DOF with m4/3....
     
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  17. fredlong

    fredlong Just this guy...

    Apr 18, 2011
    Massachusetts USA
    Fred
    I feel like depth of field controls me.
     
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  18. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    It look interesting, like what the hideous "Lunar" should have been from day one.
    So is this a Sony or a Fuji creation?
    (Discounting the Nikon flash)