Has Everyone Gone Nuts?

Macroramphosis

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A Vulcan phone. That would be a logical development.
This does not compute. You have to work up from the base assumption that Humans are actually Klingons when it comes to phones. They just will not put them down. :)
 
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Brownie

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Most people had never heard of Olympus or Panasonic cameras, except maybe for point and shoots.
Huh? You must be one of them-there youngsters. Oly started producing cameras in 1936. During the 35mm boom they were right there with the others, including Minolta, Pentax, and the Canikons, and were desirable. I'll give you Panasonic, but not Oly.
 

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For me, it comes down to "How many of us are printing large enough to take advantage of the higher image quality that full frame offers?"

If most if us are viewing and sharing our images on line - or printing up to, say, 8x10 - there's really no reason for pay for and carry around full-frame gear.

On the other hand, there's no reason for us to be buying micro four-thirds gear that's as big and heavy as full frame, either. And that's where Olympus and perhaps Panasonic have gotten into trouble. The two companies should also have gotten together - perhaps with Fuji - to advance the state of micro four-thirds sensors.

But Olympus and Panasonic have made their mistakes and the flight to full frame is well underway. It's that flight, which has reached critical mass, that seems to be influencing current micro four-thirds shooters.
 

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For me, it comes down to "How many of us are printing large enough to take advantage of the higher image quality that full frame offers?"

If most if us are viewing and sharing our images on line - or printing up to, say, 8x10 - there's really no reason for pay for and carry around full-frame gear.

On the other hand, there's no reason for us to be buying micro four-thirds gear that's as big and heavy as full frame, either. And that's where Olympus and perhaps Panasonic have gotten into trouble. The two companies should also have gotten together - perhaps with Fuji - to advance the state of micro four-thirds sensors.

But Olympus and Panasonic have made their mistakes and the flight to full frame is well underway. It's that flight, which has reached critical mass, that seems to be influencing current micro four-thirds shooters.
Wrong thread Lol 😁
This one is about underwater phone photography
 
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Something nobody's brought up yet: the photography experience. You don't get that with a phone.

Maybe I'm just old, but when I'm using a real camera, I think differently, and I look at things differently.

That doesn't mean it has to be a big, hulking Fool Frame camera. But it has to have a viewfinder, and you have to haul that sucker up to your face to take a picture, in most cases. It has to have a certain number of knobs and buttons — don't ask me how many; it's a feeling. And in my case, at least, you have to be able to manually focus and manually control the aperture and shutter speed.

I don't even know if you can control focus, aperture, and shutter speed on a smart phone. I've never spent much time on one, and when I have, it's owner just said, "pinch to zoom, and press this button to take a picture." Well, that isn't photography, to my mind!
 

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Looking at my images taken with micro 4/3 cameras, I have never said to myself, "I wish I had used a full frame camera for this." I'm not a pro, but I appreciate good images, and Olympus gear has delivered.
 

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I think the problems for m4/3 started with the fact that neither Canon nor Nikon, by far the most recognizable camera brands at the time, supported the format. Most people had never heard of Olympus or Panasonic cameras, except maybe for point and shoots. Without the CaNikon visibility, m4/3 remaining a niche market was almost inevitable (my opinion; yours may be different). When I heard about Oly's imaging products sale to JIP, I looked at other systems to see if I could find a viable path for my needs/wants. Realistically, I found nothing that would work. Canon's m-system and Nikon's Z50 may be close, but their lens selections are woeful. And I can't stand using my phone for photos because the ergonomics are pathetic. Besides, I like all of the lens variety in ILC's. FF has never been a consideration beacuse of size/weight, even with the new mirrorless cameras. Therefore, I'll continue using m4/3, which will probably last longer than I will. I'll probably pick up a few backup bodies and lenses on the used market, just in case any of my current gear fails. The E-M1 iii is also tempting if the price drops to around $999.
Touche!
 

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