Hartblei 20mm T/S for µ4/3!

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by addieleman, Jul 10, 2011.

  1. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    See <a href="http://www.hartblei.com/price_list.htm" target="_blank">the Hartblei price list</a>. Upon opening one of the plusses I saw this (highlighted by me):

    <img alt="MFT T/S lens!" border="1" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZM87TJQ/0/X2/i-ZM87TJQ-X2.jpg[/IMG]

    That looks very interesting, I'd love to have a good shift lens on my Panny cameras! :love: Does anybody know more about this?
     
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  3. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Thanks. The dpreview results don't look very encouraging and the story about the scam website and the new HCam website makes it seem dangerous to order anything with payment in advance. I'll refrain from this for now.

    Edit: AFAIK the Lensbaby adapters do only tilt and I'm specifically looking for shift possibilities. I now use a Fotodiox adapter with a Micro-Nikkor 55/3.5 which is OK for studio work, but this adapter is far from perfect.
     
  4. Gwendal

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    It looks like one I purchased a while back : actually it's a Zenitar lens soldiered on a rather crude tilt-shift mechanism, much like this one : 50mm f/2 Tilt Shift TS Lens for Panasonic Micro 4/3 m43 | eBay

    20mm in this case might also mean that it's a fisheye lens. The result is rather soft and lacking in contrast. The other solution would be to get an actual Super-Rotator, but you'll end up with a long FL.
     
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  5. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Thanks. The website doesn't mention that the 20mm is a fisheye, I don't think it is because it's specifically made for :43:. Indeed a Super-Rotator would only support longer focal lengths; I'd rather have a 14mm shift, but that's just a dream right now! :frown:
     
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  7. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    That's an interesting article. I just hesitate to try to locate a Voigtländer 12/5.6 with Nikon F mount for a lot of money only to find out that its image quality isn't quite there on µ4/3 when shifted or that the wobbly Fotodiox adapter is too much of a PITA in the field. :frown:.

    You're right, I have some issues with the Fotodiox adapter (shift type, Nikon F -> MFT). It doesn't allow infinity focussing, if only just, and it has too much play in its various moving parts after having used it for a few months. I now only do close-up studio work with it and that's fine, but I'm afraid it won't do fine in the field.
     
  8. addieleman

    addieleman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Fotodiox adapter

    :eek:fftopic: Well, I started the thread, so I can do this, right? :confused:

    Anyway, this is how bad the Fotodiox Nikon F -> µ4/3 adapter really is. The lens is a Nikkor 50/1.8 stopped down to f/2.8 and the pictures are 100 % crops from a GH2. The bell tower is a few 100 metres away.

    The first picture has been made while pushing the lens+adapter to the body, really hard. The second one has been taken while not touching the lens/adapter combo. The lens was set to infinity.

    <img border="1" alt="Fotodiox pics" src="http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-Jx6WrrT/0/L/i-Jx6WrrT-L.jpg[/IMG]

    The first one is pretty close on the mark and the second one is completely out of focus. Could be better, right? :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Gwendal

    Gwendal Mu-43 Veteran

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    How about a picture tells it better than a thousand words... I'd be curious to learn about the Fotodiox adapter from other persons though, maybe you got a defective one ?
     
  10. ascherjim

    ascherjim Mu-43 Rookie

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    I have been following this thread with interest and appreciation. Appreciation especially for the useful information imparted as well as the warnings suggested.

    I, too, was considering ordering the subject 20mm tillt and shift lens (and even went so far as querying the seller for further details). But I am also interested in the Lensbaby Tilt Transformer, as being perhaps all that I really need, and at a significantly cheaper price. I currently have an old 50mm Nikkor lens (which I have on my Nikon F), which I could use initially on the Lensbaby. And if I subsequently found that I perhaps needed a wider lens, there are plenty of used Nikkor lenses available at 35mm and under widths at cheap enough prices so as to render their acquisition still less costly than the integrated 20mm tilt-and-shift.

    So, I really need to ask myself how much I really need a lens shift function; how often I would use it over solely a tilt function. I suspect -- not much. In which case, the Lensbaby would not only be the cheaper way for me to go, but also give me the added benefit of having on hand for the purpose a range of different focal length lenses, of all excellent Nikkor glass, any of which would probably be better than contained in the integrated 20mm tilt-and-shift as I can make out from the above review.