Hey guys, I've done some reading of my own, and the review seems mixed, some said it is bad due to the higher pixel density, some said it is actually better for long exposure without NR that's why it can supports much longer bulb mode than GX7. And to be honest, most of those forum post end up in a hot mess debate on FF vs APSC vs M43. So I am wondering if anyone here has any experience with GX8 on the long exposure noise performance without NR. More specific, does it produce a lot of hot pixel for exposure longer than 15s? On two occasion, I forgot to take dark frames before/after shooting couple hundred of photo for time lapse and star trial with my GX7. The result were pretty bad due to the hot pixel along the edge of the frame, and pretty much can't do anything about it. Since Adorama and BHphoto is actually running quiet a sale right now on the GX8 with the new weather seal zoom, I am a bit tempted. After selling the lens and my gx7 I could net an upgrade with just 200~300 dollar. Want to make sure if the upgrade is worth it here. I don't really need the other 4K stuff on GX8, but if the noise performance alone yields a significant difference I may pull the trigger.