GX8 checking in, once again, for my annual "touch bases"

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I've looked at the GX8 many times and realy liked it. The those with a Pen F as well (e.g.Don @DHart), why do you prefer the GX8?
pdk42... yes, I have both the GX8 and the Pen-F.

The GX8, all the way around, has such wonderful ergonomics and is just such a joy to use. The Pen-F (without adding on an accessory orthopedic grip device of some sort) is no where near as comfortable to handle and use. I did buy an add-on device to help with the Pen-F grip hold, which makes handling a bit better, but still falls short of how the GX8 feels and handles.

I often prefer to use lenses which happen to be somewhat on the larger side (vs. primes). My most used lens these days is the Leica 12-60 f/2.8-4. That is such a versatile lens - awesome range to cover such a wide range of applications. And the image quality with that lens is so good. The GX8 is a great match, size wise, to that lens.

The GX8 EVF is just superb. I like Panasonic's menu system better, as well.

I have used the Pen-F a bit, but very little, as compared to the GX8. I see the Pen-F as being fairly suited to shooting with small, light weight primes. With somewhat larger, heavier lenses, the GX8 is a much better "fit" for me.

When I reach for a camera, most of the time, I want the GX8.

So, while I like the Pen-F, I absolutely LOVE the GX8.
 
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pdk42... yes, I have both the GX8 and the Pen-F.

The GX8, all the way around, has such wonderful ergonomics and is just such a joy to use. The Pen-F (without adding on an accessory orthopedic grip device of some sort) is no where near as comfortable to handle and use. I did buy an add-on device to help with the Pen-F grip hold, which makes handling a bit better, but still falls short of how the GX8 feels and handles.

I often prefer to use lenses which happen to be on the larger side. My most used lens these days is the Leica 12-60 f/2.8-4. That is such a versatile lens - awesome range to cover such a wide range of applications. And the image quality with that lens is so good. The GX8 is a great match, size wise, to that lens.

The GX8 EVF is just superb. I like Panasonic's menu system better, as well.

I have used the Pen-F a bit, but very, very little. I see the Pen-F as being fairly suited to shooting with small, light weight primes. With larger, heavier lenses, the GX8 is a much better "fit" for me.

When I reach for a camera, most of the time, I want the GX8.

So, while I like the Pen-F, I absolutely LOVE the GX8.
Thanks Don. I might try to pickup a used GX8 at some point to experience it first hand. I do like the EVF and the handling from the little playing I've done so far.
 
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The old GX8 still rocks, iso 10000, PL 10-25.
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It is a real shame that Panasonic hasn't seen fit to sell what I thought was a blindingly obvious follow on to the GX8. Just leave most of it the same, fix the shutter shock issue and give it the IBIS and JPEG processing from the GX85. And move the damn Q Menu button so I'm not forever hitting it accidentally. :)
It is a great camera though, and my favorite m4/3 body.
 

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It is a real shame that Panasonic hasn't seen fit to sell what I thought was a blindingly obvious follow on to the GX8. Just leave most of it the same, fix the shutter shock issue and give it the IBIS and JPEG processing from the GX85. And move the damn Q Menu button so I'm not forever hitting it accidentally. :)
It is a great camera though, and my favorite m4/3 body.
Q.MENU button doesn't bother me, but that dang DISP button does. Hit that all the time.
The IBIS in the GX85 is wonderful. I tend to pick that camera up first, when low light is a possibility.
 

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One of the reasons I bought a G90 recently is because it fills in many of the gaps left by the GX8. But when it comes to the EVF then as a prescription sunglasses wearer I have yet to come across any other m43 camera that can rival it. But the OLED rear display of the G90 is readable with my sunglasses on, whilst it's unusable on the GX8.
 

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It is a real shame that Panasonic hasn't seen fit to sell what I thought was a blindingly obvious follow on to the GX8. Just leave most of it the same, fix the shutter shock issue and give it the IBIS and JPEG processing from the GX85. And move the damn Q Menu button so I'm not forever hitting it accidentally. :)
It is a great camera though, and my favorite m4/3 body.
Many, many images with my GX8 and ZERO "shutter shock" issues! Have even tried to make it happen to no avail. Just not believing it can happen with the latest firmware.
 
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I too haven't found shutter shock to be an issue since the last firmware update. I would like full time IBIS like on the newest bodies, also minimum shutter speed choices and some of the other doo dads on the latest bodies. But the same basic layout, maybe a joystick too. I find the batteries pretty long lasting too, and sometimes they outlast the G9/GH5 batteries by a long shot.
 

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Yeah... in all the years since the introduction of the GX8... shutter shock: ZERO. Never even got close to my radar. Shutter shock has been much overblown, in my personal experience.

Use electronic shutter, as a default. Why not? If you feel that you must, for whatever reason, switch to mechanical shutter, just do so for that occasion. (As I work, I've never had occasion to change from electronic shutter. Of course, your use may differ.)

I grew up with mechanical film cameras, and then spent the vast majority of my life as a professional photographer, using medium format mechanical film cameras, before switching to digital capture during the last decade of my commercial work world.

With this background and experience, I find myself quite well served and pleased with the GX8. Does the G9 offer more? Sure it does. But is that "more" something that makes a real difference to me as an image maker? Not really! :)

I have no interest in chasing every last possible feature that is offered to tempt us to buy yet another camera body. There have been features on cameras now several years old that I have never found the need to use.

When Panasonic offers a truly worthy successor to the GX8, I will buy it! So far... nothing has tempted me. I am a little bit of a gear hound, so, perhaps 2020 will bring that worthy successor?
 
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I had shutter shock happen to me, but only once. It’s there, but I agree it’s overblown. I am still hoping Panasonic finds a way to get WR and a good VF into a GX body. GX8 or GX9 size, I don’t care. If we get HiRez it’s an instant buy
 

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I had shutter shock happen to me, but only once. It’s there, but I agree it’s overblown.
Interesting. I was wondering if it really existed.

I am still hoping Panasonic finds a way to get WR and a good VF into a GX body. GX8 or GX9 size, I don’t care. If we get HiRez it’s an instant buy
WR and the EVF was the reasons I bought a used GX8.

Sincerily, HiRes is not that useful. I have it on an E-M5.2 and E-M1.2, and after my tests I never used it. It is limited to static objects: it is not even good for landscape as soon as there is a little wind. Maybe if I had the E-M1.3 I'd used handheld HiRes for architecture?

Note that you can do HiRes with any camera with Photoshop.
 

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Actually the G9 HighRes Type 2 (like adobe "remove ghosts") is pretty useful. Can't HH, but no blurring (for most objects, and its pretty good for moving water).
 
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I think the GX8 keeps me honest. I don't use the 4K mode, don't use the art modes, don't shoot video and I appreciate my GX8 for what it is - a wonderfully ergonomic camera with a good sensor that suits my capabilities and what I want to do (though that may even be a stretch as I'm probably by no means capable of using this camera to its full capabilities).

And to be frank, it is still as true today as it has ever been that the EYE behind the camera is what makes a good photograph. No amount of HDR or PP is going to turn a pig's ear into a sow's purse unless there are some coins and jewellery in it already.
 

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I think the GX8 keeps me honest. I don't use the 4K mode, don't use the art modes, don't shoot video and I appreciate my GX8 for what it is - a wonderfully ergonomic camera with a good sensor that suits my capabilities and what I want to do (though that may even be a stretch as I'm probably by no means capable of using this camera to its full capabilities).

And to be frank, it is still as true today as it has ever been that the EYE behind the camera is what makes a good photograph. No amount of HDR or PP is going to turn a pig's ear into a sow's purse unless there are some coins and jewellery in it already.
Indeed... still, to this day, the GX8 remains a highly competent image-making camera. No complaints, whatsoever, from me. Sure there are some newer features that I might appreciate. But all-in-all, as a stills camera it provides superb image quality and the body handles like a dream. I can easily wait until Panasonic gets its collective head on straight and brings us a GX10 that carries on respectfully from the GX8.
 

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Out of all the digital cameras (started with a coolpix 775), the Gx8 is the only one I have decided to keep "forever". I just like it especially with the 12-35.
 

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Out of all the digital cameras (started with a coolpix 775), the Gx8 is the only one I have decided to keep "forever". I just like it especially with the 12-35.
The Pana-Leica 12-60 f/2.8-4 lives on my GX8. I do love the 12-35, however the extended range of the 12-60 makes it a Moree versatile lens when I'm out and about, that it rarely leaves the body.

That said, I typically use wide-angle focal lengths much more than tele, so the 12-35 f/2.8 lens is an extremely useful lens for me. And razor sharp.
 
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As for the 12-35 f/2.8 lens vs. the 12-60 f/2.8-4 lens, most of my shooting is done stopped down to around 5.6 sometimes f/8, so unless I'm doing a portrait or NEED shallow depth of focus, the f/2.8-4 lens is fine (I consider it to be an f/4 lens, with an option of f/2.8 in tight quarters - 12mm.

When I do need shallow depth of focus, I'll go right to the 45/1.8 or 75/1.7 and call it good.
 

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The Gx8 and G9 are the perfect combo, throw in the Gx85 with the Oly 9-18/Pany 35-100 f4/5.6 and you have the three bears of photography.
 
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