GX7 picture-in-picture focus peaking?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by Turbofrog, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    I apologize if this has been asked before, but I wasn't able to find a specific answer using the forum search (or Google, for that matter)...

    On my GX1, I quite like the picture-in-picture magnification for manually focusing with legacy lenses, as I can still frame and focus at the same time. However, the resolution on the GX1 screen is noticeably pretty poor, and I find I can't nail critical focus unless I enlarge to full screen (in which case I lose framing).

    Basically, what I'm wondering is does the GX7 allow focus-peaking (in the EVF, ideally) while in the picture-in-picture magnified view? And is the resolution sufficiently usable to ensure actual focus? With the exception of the Fuji X-T1's split-screen focusing aid, this seems like it would be the holy grail to me. I would be super grateful if someone could take a picture of their LCD or EVF of this focus peaking implementation, if it is actually possible.

    Many thanks!
     
  2. heli-mech

    heli-mech Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Mar 9, 2012
    Vancouver Island, Canada
    Andrew
    Sold my GX7 but I am quite sure that the peaking worked in the magnified view. And yes I would say it was rather easy to manual focus if I wanted to. Panasonics focus peaking is much better than the E-M1's which introduces some pretty serious VF lag while the GX7 stays nice and smooth.

    Sent from my Samsung Note II via mu-43 app.
     
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  3. biomed

    biomed Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 22, 2013
    Seattle area
    Mike
    The answer is yes. The GX7 focus peaking and magnified view make MF very easy. So much so that I rarely use AF when shooting with my GX7. I use a variety of lenses - MF Nikkors, M mount RF and native u4/3 lenses.
     
  4. laser8

    laser8 Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 29, 2013
    Mare nostrum, Istria
    +1

    I find the resolution so much better than the GX1 that I even turned off the magnified view (if needed, one can bring it back just by pressing the left button (the one with AF focusing options)
     
  5. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    I turned my magnification off as well. I don't think its a resolution issue though. From my tests it seems that the peaking works the same, its sensitivity is the same, whether I am looking at a magnified view or a normal view. So the magnification is just a distraction, especially with longer lenses.
     
  6. stw

    stw Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 23, 2013
    Agreed, I am finding it to be a distraction as well, but haven't turned it off yet. I think I will try that out.
     
  7. Fineshriber

    Fineshriber New to Mu-43

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    Jun 14, 2014
    Utah
    Scott Fineshriber
    Could you please fill me in on how to keep focus peaking on, but turn the magnification off with the GX7. I'm having trouble finding the setting. Love the peaking, don't want magnification at the same time. Thank you!
     
  8. oldracer

    oldracer Mu-43 All-Pro

    Oct 1, 2010
    USA
    Go to the setup menu section with the little wrench symbol and the "C." The thing you want to kill is called "MF Assist" on the third page of 8 pages (!) of stuff. There are four options: Off, Automatic Turn-on if the MF ring it twisted, Automatic turn-on if the left arrow button is pressed (laser8's choice), and Automatic turn-on with either the MF ring or the arrow.

    FWIW, I find that I can almost always find an obscure feature by searching the PDF version of the "Advanced" GX-7 manual. You can find it online or as a possibly-out-of-date version on the CDROM that came with the camera.

    HTH
     
  9. BLT

    BLT Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 13, 2013
    London
    James
    Yes focus peaking is def' available in the magnified centre box. I use this all the time and it is aces for MF.

    The clarity of the image however on both the screen and the EVF is about good enough to not need the peaking all the time. Certainly with longer lenses it can be quite easy.

    Like wise the peaking can often be used solo such is it's accuracy.

    I have the Fn 1 button set to turn on the centre magnification. My natural shooting position is finger on the shutter and thumb on the AE lock. This means that the joint of my thumb is always over the Fn1 button, making activating the Centre Focus Box very easy. And when you half press the shutter, the box disappears so you can confirm composition before taking the picture.

    IT's Perfect for MF legacy glass. That is ultimately why I recently purchased this camera over the E-M10, it is just so good for MF. Plus I like the 'big' grip for bigger lenses.
     
  10. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Thanks, BLT, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Makes my decision between the EM10 and GX7 more difficult. I really like the ergonomics and handling of Panasonic bodies.

    The big deal breaker for me is that I can't use Auto ISO in M mode, which makes using manual (telephoto) lenses a pain in the tail. It seems like such a trivial feature to add in firmware, but Panasonic seems ideologically opposed to it
    ...

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
  11. Fineshriber

    Fineshriber New to Mu-43

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    Jun 14, 2014
    Utah
    Scott Fineshriber
    Thanks, oldracer.
     
  12. svenkarma

    svenkarma Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 5, 2013
    mark evans
    To be fair to Panasonic - and it has given me the occasional 'oh ffs' moment - the 'M' does after all stand for 'Manual' and 'Auto' kind of runs contrary to that.
     
  13. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    Certainly it's fair. But if that's their rationale, just give me a separate A/S mode on the dial instead of calling it M. That clutters up the interface a bit more, but if they're unwilling to add auto to M, it's a big hole in the functionality.

    Panasonic seems to have recognized it, too, since both the GH4 and FZ1000 have Auto ISO in M mode, as they should. It's just unfortunate that it means I won't buy a GX7. Maybe it's fortunate, keeps the G.A.S. in check...