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Grr...how do I get the OM-D to number the files sequentially?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by LowriderS10, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Hi guys,

    My OM-D seems to be numbering files depending on the day I took the pictures. It's bloody annoying. I just want it to number them 0000 to 9999 in a sequential manner. How do I get it to do this...I can't seem to find the correct setting. Also, do they all re-use numbers when you delete pictures? Mine seems to be doing this thing where if I take a picture - let's say file number 187, then delete it...then the next picture I take is still 187 (whereas on a Canon it would be 188). This isn't a huge deal, but I like to know how many shutter actuations my cameras have...

    Thanks!
     
  2. Fmrvette

    Fmrvette This Space For Rent

    May 26, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    Jim
    Hi Lowrider!

    Manual, page 91:

    Menu/Gears/H

    [Auto]: Even when a new card is inserted, the file numbers
    are retained from the previous card. File numbering
    continues from the last number used or from the highest
    number available on the card.
    [Reset]: When you insert a new card, the folder numbers
    starts at 100 and the file name starts at 0001. If a card
    containing images is inserted, the file numbers start at the
    number following the highest file number on the card.

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    SHUTTER COUNT PROCEDURE:

    1. With a charged battery installed hold down the MENU button while switching on the camera.
    2. When the LCD lights release the MENU button and immediately press it again, once.
    3. In the menu go to SPANNER (line 5) and press RIGHT.
    4. Press DOWN until you are at the LCD brightness screen (line 3).
    5. Enter the brightness screen (shows twin adjusters) by pressing RIGHT and then press INFO and OK sequentially.
    6. You will see on the LCD 'OLYMPUS' followed by the designation of your camera (eg E-P1).
    7. Press in sequence UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, SHUTTER and UP for screen 1.
    8. You are now in the hidden information screens: RIGHT = screen 2, DOWN = screen 3, LEFT = screen 4.
    9. When you have your information simply switch off the camera.


    Shutter count is on "Page 2" under "R".

    The other lines on the screen mean:

    R: shutter release count
    S: flash use count
    C: CMOS cleaning mode (with mirror lock-up - in E-410 series)
    U: number of ultrasonic dedusting, ~ number of power switch on
    V: number of use of LiveView
    B: number of shot using In-Body

    Unfortunately Olympus doesn't embed shutter actuations in the EXIF data as Nikon does.

    HTH

    Regards,

    Jim
     
  3. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Jim...Jim...JIM!!! You're awesome. Thank you!

    I may have missed it, though...but how do I get it to stop naming the bloody files according to the date?

    I'll definitely reset the camera and wipe all the cards, though. :)

    Also, I'm all right with it not being included in the EXIF...it would be nice, but the Oly approach is still better than the Canon approach...for years the only way to tell what the shutter count was to send it into Canon...now there is a program that is fairly accurate that tells you, but it used to be free and now it's a pay-per-use dealio...so I'm happy if I can do some fancy trickery and get the info in camera! :)
     
  4. Fmrvette

    Fmrvette This Space For Rent

    May 26, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    Jim
    Are your file names like "P7090001.JPG" or some such?

    I just reformatted a card, took a photo and it gave the name above (with .orf on the RAW file).

    "The Olympus file format is Pmddnnnn.jpg where:
    m is month 1-9 then A-C A=10 B=11 C==12
    dd is day 0-31
    nnnn is number 0000-9999
    The P is fixed for all Olympus Cameras."


    (source Olympus file name )

    So I don't think you can set a custom numbering system :confused:. The best bet seems to be setting the file system on Auto and letting it continue the numbering system across cards. Once the system gets to 9999 I believe (but not have confirmed) that it rolls over.

    Although - if there is a way to do it, someone will chime in and show us the error of my ways :biggrin:.

    The answers I sent in the original mail didn't originate with me, they were tips that I culled from the forums and saved :thumbup:; the reference from the user manual I just cut 'n pasted from the .PDF version.

    (I rename the files when I import them to the computer, I've not checked the shutter count in quite awhile...).

    HTH

    Jim
     
  5. The last four digits of the file name are sequential on an Olympus. The difference between it and a Canon is that the Canon will use the prefix "IMG_" (or "_MG_") followed by sequential digits up to 9999 before resetting to 0000, whereas an Olympus uses a "Pmdd" prefix but is also followed by four sequential digits.
     
  6. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    I have my EM5s both set to custom names. I didn't want the same file numbers with two cameras as it can confuse Lightroom. My camera just have a 3 letter prefix (different for each camera) and then 5 sequential numbers that don't reset.

    I don't have an EM5 on me at the moment. But I can look it up later.

    Gordon
     
  7. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Here's what my file names look like:

    TV071234

    TV is the custom name I gave my files; my initials.
    07 is the CALENDAR DAY I took it.
    1234 is the sequential number that it assigns each picture.

    The problem is this way I can end up with multiple file numbers being the same...ie: the first picture I take on July 7th and the first picture I take on Aug. 7th will *BOTH* be named TV070001.
     
  8. I left the file naming protocol exactly as it is was per the factory defaults so that everything remains in order and with unique filenames. Removing the variable of the month from the filenames will screw up the alphanumeric order of the files when you have more than one month's worth of images in the same folder. When I want to add a customised prefix to the filenames of my cameras I use a file renamer to do it all in one batch (as an example, I add the prefix "OEM5-" for my E-M5, "SNX200-" for my NX200, etc.
     
  9. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Exactly...plus, removing those two digits for the date would be a pain in the ass. HOWEVER...is there any way to get the camera to stop doing it in the first place? I just want it to number the shots sequentially...that's it. If I take TV0001 then 4 months later take another picture, I want it to be TV0002, that simple! :D

    I usually have my pictures sorted by month, HOWEVER, when I go on trips (and I go on a lot of them), I have them sorted BY TRIP. Some of them straddle months (ie: I'm going to Europe from the end of July to the middle of August), and then it'll be all out of sequence.

    This really shouldn't be *THIS* difficult/impossible. :'(
     
  10. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    OK. In the edit filename section (section H) choose sRGB. You can assign four places. I have 3 assigned (my initials on one camera and bussiness name initials on the other. I have the last digit set to "OFF". In the aRGB section you can only set 3 digits as the first is reserved for an underscore (same for Canon). Above that set file name to "auto".

    I think that's all I did and I do not get any date info in the file name.

    BUT

    The custom name is not displayed during playback in camera. Files get the custom name but the info screen shows the folder and file number only on the camera LCD. SO you'll need to look at the card on your computer to see if it's working.

    Gordon
     
  11. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Thanks, that's exactly what I've been doing...I just did it again. sRGB, two spaces set to my initials, two spaces off. Reset everything, set "File Name" to "Auto."

    It's July 10th here, took three pictures. TV100001 TV100002 and TV100003. Then set the camera's clock to July 12th, took a picture...TV120004. Why is it doing that??!!

    This is really basic...I just want the camera to name the files in straight up, linear, no-frills, 0000 to 9999 fashion...that's it.
     
  12. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    try three letters.

    gordon
     
  13. heli-mech

    heli-mech Mu-43 Top Veteran

    959
    Mar 9, 2012
    Vancouver Island, Canada
    Andrew
    I can't ever figure out why the file numbering isn't just completely sequential. First photo is 0000001.jpeg, 100th is 0000100.jpg, 20,000th is 0020000.jpeg........ At least as an option.



    Sent from my Samsung Note II via mu-43 app.
     
  14. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Would 4 work as well? Then I could do TVOM :D

    I know!!! They're overcomplicating things and then not giving us an option to just keep it nice and simple...grrr! It really shouldn't be THIS hard to have a basic setting.

    *deep breath*

    I just have to remember...that I really like this camera haha.
     
  15. flash

    flash Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 29, 2010
    1 hour from Sydney Australia.
    Gordon
    four in sRGB and three in aRGB. I shoot in sRGB (but raw so it makes no difference).

    Gordon
     
  16. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    Thanks...I'll try that when I get home from work today.
     
  17. Mikefellh

    Mikefellh Mu-43 Top Veteran

    939
    Jun 7, 2012
    Toronto, Canada
    Having had used Olympus cameras for more than TEN YEARS, I love the fact they have the date in the filename...I can quickly search for files shot on a particular date, without having to expand the listing to show the date field! Just wished instead of starting with a single letter the first character indicated the year!
     
  18. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    I'm sure it's useful to some people, but I would like there to be an easy option to just use the regular old 0000 to 9999 setup. As I've said, when I take long trips that straddle multiple months, it really screws up the file order.

    Although...outside of that, it's actually pretty neat...I may set my camera to do the TVOM prefix (no date prefix) on trips, but leave it on TVdatedate for the rest of them...I was afraid that I would end up with multiple files with the same names ie: the 17th shot taken on March 5th and June 5th would both be named 050017, but I realized that it still keeps the 4 numbers rolling from the previous day, and not resetting to 0000...except that I just manually reset it yesterday...ugh...oh well haha.