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Goodbye to my trusty LX5 - am I giving up anything?

Discussion in 'Other Systems' started by jumbotron, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. jumbotron

    jumbotron Mu-43 Regular

    134
    Jul 9, 2011
    Vancouver, Canada
    My 12 month love affair with my LX5 is over as I hand her off to new owner tomorrow. I loved this camera as my daily pocket camera that never let me down while travelling or just everyday shots, but I figured with my XZ-1 and GF2 would give me the range of pocket ability with the convenient Olympus art filters and the GF2 still gives me that great Dynamic B&W that Lumix has.

    My EPs and DSLR have me covered the other direction.

    So, am I where I was with my LX5, ahead because the interchangeable lenses or behind?

    Jim in Vancouver
     
  2. Xuereb

    Xuereb Mu-43 Rookie

    12
    Apr 20, 2011
    Perth, Australia
    I sold mine and now have a GF1 and Nex 5N. You appear to be covered in every direction. What I miss is the small package and the special way in which the LX5 'etched' an image at about f4 either at 35mm or 50mm equivalent. I have got used to carrying the additional size/weight of the GF1 instead and which, with its 20mm lens, etches all I want.
     
  3. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Yes, you are way ahead from the LX5 now. Especially with the XZ-1... wasn't that already an upgrade to the LX5 in a similar format?
     
  4. jumbotron

    jumbotron Mu-43 Regular

    134
    Jul 9, 2011
    Vancouver, Canada
    I grabbed the xz1 for the 1.8 lens, the super macro and that funky dial. And after shooting with my EPs over the last few months - it seems so familiar.

    There's just so much more ink out there on the LX5 - but then again there have been so many new high end P&S since D-Lux and LX cameras came out.

    It's funny though that I still ended up with a camera with a stupid lens cap design ;-)
     
  5. darrenleow

    darrenleow Mu-43 Regular

    89
    Sep 30, 2011
    Singapore
    In what ways are the XZ-1 superior to the LX5?
     
  6. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    The other question would be what would the LX5 have that the XZ-1 doesnt?

    The XZ-1 has a better quality f/1.8 aperture lens, a nice aperture and control ring on the lens mount, the Trupic V image processor and Live Control menu of the PEN cameras, and compatibility with all PEN accessories with the Accessory Port, including the wonderful VF-2 electronic viewfinder and I believe the EMA-1 mic jack. It's basically a fixed lens, small sensored PEN camera.
     
  7. tanngrisnir3

    tanngrisnir3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    594
    Oct 18, 2011
    While it's indeed faster (which may or may not be useful to some people), is it actually a higher-quality lens?
     
  8. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    It is the first point-and-shoot lens to ever bear the Zuiko name...
    I guess the best answer would be - yes, it's "supposed" to be higher quality.

    The actual difference between f/2 and f/1.8 is of course negligible... The LX5 lens was no slouch for sure.
    Plus, arguing the optical quality of two high-end point-and-shoots is really splitting fine hairs. ;)
     
  9. tanngrisnir3

    tanngrisnir3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    594
    Oct 18, 2011
    True. I learned to shoot manual and process RAW on one, so I attest to that.

    But living with a semi-pro with a big, fat 5D sensor, I couldn't help but see the benefits of getting all that extra light.

    Still, it was a wonderful learning tool.
     
  10. Art

    Art Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 13, 2011
    San Francisco, CA
    It's Zuiko vs Leica, your choice. A friend of mine recently bought LX5 but he was also considering XZ1. Basically, LX5 has wider angle, possibly more effective OIS, multi-aspect sensor, faster shutter speed, better video quality, better NR control, cheaper. He's been using it for months and likes it a lot. I hate the color of the pics he posts on facebook taking with LX5 (distinct green cast).
     
  11. jumbotron

    jumbotron Mu-43 Regular

    134
    Jul 9, 2011
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yeah, the compatibility of the PEN accessories was a big point for me. I actually sold my Lumix EVF after I bought the PEN EVF, and just bought one again on the weekend for the GF2 and yeah - I'm reminded in a big way of why I ditched that EVF in the first place. There is no comparison between the two.
     
  12. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    I don't think it's something to regret unless it has sentimental value, but that LX-5 is a powerful little camera! It's super sharp, not to mention it takes some incredible low light photos as well. Some examples:

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vftsai/6427712285/" title="P1000979 by V-F-Tsai, on Flickr"> 6427712285_342bf10616_b. "1024" height="683" alt="P1000979"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vftsai/6427667039/" title="buzzz by V-F-Tsai, on Flickr"> 6427667039_79675c18e1_b. "1024" height="683" alt="buzzz"></a>
     
  13. jumbotron

    jumbotron Mu-43 Regular

    134
    Jul 9, 2011
    Vancouver, Canada
    Crap! I just realized that Dynamic Black and White is gone on this GF2 - dang! Now what do I do?
     
  14. vlitzer

    vlitzer New to Mu-43

    4
    Dec 1, 2011
    I've been trailing this forum for a while. I currently own a LX5, that I bought because the IQ in a small package; but the lack of viewfinder and the temptation of better sensor and better IQ I've been wanting to switch to M43.
    I know that I can just buy the pana vf, but is expensive for what I read; and I just prefer to buy an ep2 & the VF.

    I'm wondering also, if it will be worthy to make this upgrade?
     
  15. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    Very much. :) It is an entirely different breed of camera.
     
  16. woof

    woof Mu-43 Top Veteran

    511
    Oct 18, 2011
    The present.
    That said, it is also an entirely different breed of camera. Take it seriously and it WILL deliver. I am selling mine, but only regretfully and chiefly because some of the M43 is close in form factor. So overall I agree the OP has "it" covered, but M43 takes absolutely NOTHING away from what Panasonic has achieved with this camera. I was astounded.

    I've posted these a fair amount. So I apologize to others who have seen these before... but they are illustrative of the capabilities of this little camera. Please compare the following architectural shots. There are pairs. One in each pair is an APS-C Pentax K10D with either an SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 or DA 15mm and one is an LX-5 with it's lovely little Leica lens - at 24mm FF Equiv, 16mm APSC Equiv.

    I've made it easy to identify which is which frankly, but you tell ME how the LX-5 stacks up. The LX-5 shot from the third pair is a hand-held 3 frame AEB. Look at the detail retention in the highlights versus the K10D. Perhaps this is not a fair comparison in some sense, but it does say that used correctly, this tool can easily produce images that rival APS-C, let alone M43.

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    My take on this is that if you take this little camera seriously, it will give you more than you asked for.

    Here is some landscape. Just LX-5.

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    And City Scapes (Color could be better):

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    And a creative shot:

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    I love this little camera. IT IS ENTIRELY A DIFFERENT BREED OF CAMERA.
     
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  17. vlitzer

    vlitzer New to Mu-43

    4
    Dec 1, 2011
    I pretty much love my LX5. The only thing that bothers me is the not having a view finder. And paying that much for the Pana one, just make me think twice.
     
  18. jumbotron

    jumbotron Mu-43 Regular

    134
    Jul 9, 2011
    Vancouver, Canada
    Seems that buying an panny evf for $100 is gonna be way cheaper than spending $500 on a ep2 +. In the end it depends on what you want - for me going m43 was easy because of all the legacy lenses I had already and the m43 has breathed new life into all of those. But for pocketability - the lx5 wins hands down.
     
  19. vlitzer

    vlitzer New to Mu-43

    4
    Dec 1, 2011
    Well with all the money invested in the LX5 I just thought that I can sell it and just switch to m43 without much more money. Unless I buy the expensive primes right now. And I want to play with legacy glass.
     
  20. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    Sell it now before the LX7 comes out. :wink:

    I bought my gf the LX5 last Christmas and she loves it. It's the default camera we bring to parties and concerts. As you can see from the samples above it is a VERY capable camera and makes a great secondary camera as well.

    However if you can only have one, you won't regret going with M4/3. I love using legacy lenses on my G2.