Good Olympus standard zoom needed please

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by Muntjack, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 26, 2010
    I'm really writing this as I know Oly employees read our forum and they will obviously want to make what we want buy (am I a dreamer?).
    Personally I am desperately waiting for a standard range zoom of a bit higher quality than the 12-50mm which is a bit too slow for my tastes.
    I use primes almost exclusively but I'd love a weather sealed quick zoom for bad weather (like now) and for travel.
    The Panny is too expensive and I begrudge paying for OIS when I have the OMD.
    Best compromise for me regarding size,price, and quality, would be a MFT version of the excellent 14-54mm f2.8-3.5.
    Anybody want to join me in the plea?
    M
     
  2. shizlefonizle

    shizlefonizle Mu-43 Veteran

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    Apr 21, 2012
    Hmmm the Olympus 12-50mm already costs $499 by itself, so if Olympus did make a higher quality standard zoom thats faster and with weather sealing I think it would be safe to assume that the cost would be similar to the Panasonic. Ive also been waiting for m43 version of the Olympus 12-60 f2.8-4, but I think Im just going to pick up the Panasonic.
     
  3. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 26, 2010
    Wow. You can pick the 12-50 up for under £200 in the UK.

    The panny is around £800+ .. I'd be happy to pay around £5-600 or so for a decent zoom.
     
  4. Ned

    Ned Mu-43 Legend

    Jul 18, 2010
    Alberta, Canada
    In the 4/3 system I used the Olympus 14-54mm f/2.8-3.5 and 12-60mm f/2.8-4 because they were a little better and a lot more available than the Pana-Leica 14-50mm f/2.8-3.5. I used the Zuiko 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 because Panasonic never made such a lens, period. I didn't use only Zuiko lenses because I used an Olympus DSLR. I used Zuiko lenses because they were the best choice available to my system.

    Now I use the Micro Four-Thirds system. My choice for a fast standard zoom... for the moment, though I'm sure that more will come shortly... are the Lumix X 12-35mm f/2.8 and Lumix X 35-100mm f/2.8. If those are the lenses I need, then those are the lenses I will buy for my system. Why do I care if the name in front of it says "Lumix X" or "m.Zuiko" if the quality of the lens is great and it meets all my specifications?

    The beauty of the 4/3 and m4/3 standards is that they are open standards and the multiple manufacturers allow it to grow faster, broader, and better. You're only missing out if you get stuck on the name.

    If cost is your issue, then get the Zuiko 14-54mm II with CDAF optimization. Of course it won't be as fast to focus as a native m4/3 lens, but it has outstanding quality and is still compact in size. Yes you will make a small sacrifice after gaining a huge discount in price (assuming you already have a good 4/3 adapter). What else would you expect? Is the high quality glass and fast aperture more important to you, or the fastest AF achievable? I would pick the former any day of the week, personally.

    Or... you can just be patient and wait for Olympus to release a fast standard zoom. Do you really believe they don't see the need for one? Of course they know we want one, but there's a lot of things we want and they have to release them on a reasonable timeline that makes it possible for their production teams. Panasonic chose to concentrate on fast zooms, while Olympus stated publicly that they will first complete their Fixed Focal Length lineup. For those of us who aren't stuck on names and realize that this is the same system being developed by the independent resources of two separate manufacturers so we can have a complete lineup in both zoom and primes in record time (this system has grown incredibly fast, and no other non-reflex system can come close to catching up in decades)... that is nothing but GOOD news! Instead of fighting each other within the same system with redundant lenses for the sake of each company's ego so that they can sell their own version of the same lens, and making us users wait forever for expansion into uncharted territory (we still don't have long fast lenses beyond 100mm, neither zoom nor prime!!), they have made a conscious decision to work together by concentrating their resources in different areas. They put aside their own brand selfishness for the sake of us, their customers. I think they deserve our respect for that! Could you imagine Canon and Nikon or Sony and Pentax working together like that?

    Before Olympus thinks of spending their resources on making their own fast standard zoom to compete with Panasonic's 12-35mm/2.8 and 35-100mm/2.8, I would much rather see both companies concentrate on fast super-telephotos. Olympus on primes, and Panasonic on zooms, so that we can have a complete system as one.
     
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  5. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 26, 2010
    Yes I agree with most of that. But apart from price and unnecessary OIS the penny lens is not quite the range I prefer.... 12 is too wide and 35 isn't long enough.
    M
     
  6. Sam0912

    Sam0912 Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 1, 2012
    I'd agree with that, and as Oly are traditionally still camera specialists, with Panasonic being massive in the pro video market, I think their lens designs will follow that of their bodies.

    IMO the OMD is streets ahead of anything Panasonic as a stills camera, but the GH3 (and GH2) destroy it when it comes to video. Same with lenses, the Panasonic zooms look very good indeed, the fast sealed 2.8's pair well with the OMD and GH3, the 14-42 and 45 - 175 are video friendly power zooms. Oly make both good quality cheap primes like the 45 1.8 as well as high end lenses like the 75 and 12mm.

    Both companies seem to have agreed to work to their own strengths without treading in each others toes too much, It's the best of both worlds. Even better, you can have a body from each camp and share lenses between them.
     
  7. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    I really hope Oly comes out with a fast zoom with a little more range as well, but if it's a 14-xx I won't buy it. I don't particularly love the 14mm field of view, and it's not quite wide enough. I'll gladly sacrifice long end for that, push come to shove.
     
  8. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    I disagree.

    Super-telephotos are a niche within a niche. Great for prestige. But not great for sales, particularly on a system that can't yet do competent C-AF. The addition of a 200/2.8 or a 300/4 would not make m4/3 a great sport-shooting or wildlife system.

    A high quality 12-50/2.8-3.5 would sell in far larger quantities, and would make the upcoming OM-D Pro far more attractive to non-4/3 users. Quality aside, the 12-35/2.8 lacks the range and close-focus capability to be a good hiking or walkaround lens for me. I suspect I'm not alone in that feeling.
     
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  9. Sam0912

    Sam0912 Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 1, 2012
    Ideally I would like to see a version of the 12-60 2.8 - 4; looked a cracking walk around lens, good wide coverage plus 120mm at the long end, good autofocus speed and hard as nails. If the 12-50 kit lens (OMD) had done away with power zoom, macro, fn button etc and simply been a sealed, quick focusing 12-50 f2.8-f3.5, I'd already have an OMD!
     
  10. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 26, 2010
    Glad a few are thinking along the same lines as me. I'd definitely be happy to take a 12-60. Hopefully it wouldn't be too physically large but the range would be marvellous. Price would likely be quite high though.
    I'd always pay up though for the exact lens I want.
    M
     
  11. Bravin Neff

    Bravin Neff Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 25, 2011
    Detroit
    Bravin Neff
    I have directly benefited from these efforts, as I believe others here have. But just to be clear, what you are describing is collusion, specifically tacit collusion.

    Just saying.
     
  12. For a sharper lens than the 12-50mm you can try to track down an original Panasonic 14-45mm lens from the G1 and GF1 kits, and end up with some extra money in your pocket as well. It won't solve the lens speed issue however.
     
  13. ~tc~

    ~tc~ Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 22, 2010
    Houston, TX
    Tacit collusion is rarely illegal ... Not that the law has ever stopped Olympus from doing what it wanted ...

    TBH, I have always been surprised that the two big players went so head-to-head for all these years. It makes a lot more sense to me to divide the market while you can, and then worry about filling out your lineup.
     
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