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G1 800ASA church shot

Discussion in 'Creative Corner' started by Herman, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Kitlens, f5.6 , 1/8 sec. , 45mm (90mm), very bad light conditions.
    I need higher ISO settings / other lens(es).
    Do you think that other gear would give better result ?

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  2. photoSmart42

    photoSmart42 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 12, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Well, I assume you're talking about lighting, because different gear wouldn't improve the actual photo composition. Assuming you shot this at perfect exposure, shooting at higher ISO or using a faster lens would allow you to use a faster shutter speed to minimize the blur. A sharper lens with some better coatings would increase the sharpness (assuming it's properly focused), and might bring out the colors more. Also, if this is OOC JPEG, you might want to try shooting in RAW and doing a bit of PP using the RAW. RAW format allows you to bring out more details, and to recover information that's lost when the camera compresses the image into the JPEG.
     
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  3. nokiamia

    nokiamia Mu-43 Regular

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    May 20, 2010
    Malaysia
    herman, just curious, was the OIS turned on?
     
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  4. ajramirez

    ajramirez Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jan 16, 2010
    Caguas, Puerto Rico
    Herman,

    What don't you like about it? The picture seems sharp enough and not too noisy. As to colors, careful exposure and post-processing can take care of that.

    A faster lens (e.g., 45mm 2.8) would have allowed you to shoot at a higher shutter speed or lower ISO, but given that the picture does not appear unsharp or noisy, I do not think it would have helped in this case.

    Regards,

    Antonio
     
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  5. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Yes, OIS set to position 2.
    Thanks for asking.
     
  6. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Hi Antonio, guess this picturen was taken at a place where the lighting situation seems to be almost best of all. I just wonder would Nikon or Canon gear in this situation give any better result?
    I like a mft camera that can shoot without flash in the dark.
     
  7. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Simply use a tripod and re-compose a bit to the left. they look all lopsided and faded and non-sharp : and I think there's a great picture hiding in there somewhere...
    Personally I'd be tempted to stick something like a 135mm f2-ish lens on and take the pic from further away, on a tripod.
    I can't see how another brand of camera and/or better high ISO would make a better pic ... but I haven't compared those type of things yet.
     
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  8. carl969

    carl969 New to Mu-43

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    Jun 1, 2010
    Rome / Italy
    Yes Herman, Canon and Nikon are better in high iso than G1. 6400 iso is like 800 iso on G1.
    Look:
    Canon 1D Mark IV vs. Nikon D3S – Evaluating Prints from High ISO Files Photography Bay | Digital Camera Reviews, News and Resources
     
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  9. photoSmart42

    photoSmart42 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 12, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    No, I personally don't see how a camera with better ISO performance would have made the photo better. Like others have said, it doesn't appear to be a low light issue with the photo, but rather a composition issue.

    Yes, there are certainly valid reasons for wanting a camera with better ISO performance, but I think even in this case you could have worked with the RAW file to bring out some more tones and brightness/contrast, or even added exposure. Have you tried that? That would be a way to answer the lighting question. What ISO setting did you use for this photo in any event? I didn't see where you mentioned the ISO used.
     
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  10. goldenlight

    goldenlight Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 30, 2010
    Essex
    John
    Herman, I can't do anything about the composition but the original was under-exposed, lacking in contrast and needed a bit of sharpening. It then looks like this:

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    Hope you don't mind me editing your image. :smile:
     
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  11. Newnan3

    Newnan3 Mu-43 Regular

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    May 16, 2010
    A tripod wouldve been a big help......
     
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  12. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Thanks for advice and tips !
     
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