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Focal lengths: 14mm to 800mm

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by macro, Apr 14, 2015.

  1. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    Looking at the different focal lengths mounted on the E-M10.

    Atmospheric conditions, haze, etc. Varying light in the same hour or so, different exposures and all the rest that goes with it, but its what I test the lenses on anyway. Nothing scientific, no MTF charts or lines per mm. That doesn't interest me at all to be honest and DXO I'm not :)

    All Canon FD lenses except the first shot taken with a kit lens.

    P1010009-2.

    P1010001.

    P1010002.

    P1010003-2.

    P1010005.

    P1010006-2.

    P1010007.

    All the best folks and its only about the focal lengths.

    Danny.
     
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  2. Carbonman

    Carbonman Mu-43 All-Pro

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    Graham
    This reminds me of the old Canon FD lens catalogs.
     
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  3. Clicka

    Clicka Mu-43 Regular

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    Peter Campbell
    Nice comparisons. It's actually 14-1120 we're looking at, correct?
     
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  4. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    Ahhh, good point :) The TC's were only put on for someone that asked about the TC's. I very rarely shoot with them, but yep, you are right, should have thought about that ;)

    All the best.

    Danny.
     
  5. AussiePhil

    AussiePhil Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Phil
    out of interest how far is it from point to point, google earth can do the measurement.
     
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  6. Clicka

    Clicka Mu-43 Regular

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    Peter Campbell
    It's phenomenal the amount of detail you can pull in with those long lenses.
     
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  7. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    According to that its 6.87 kilometres in a straight line. Not a hill I would want to drag the lenses up by hand ;)

    Edit: Had the distance wrong and now corrected at 6.87 km, just over 4.25 miles.

    Danny.
     
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  8. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    A bit closer these ones and with a Panasonic G1

    17022001.


    P1010775.

    P1010772.

    P1010773-2.

    All the best and its the old story, the closer you are, the better off you are.

    Danny.
     
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  9. Ravenscroft

    Ravenscroft Mu-43 Rookie

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    This is excellent, thanks. I've got an old FD 300/2.8L and 500/4.5L and have just got an E-M10 to resurrect them with, so I'm delighted to see the quality of your images :)
     
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  10. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    Good on you, nice lenses for sure and they work really well on m4/3. A few with the E-M10 so far and its growing .....

    http://birdsinaction.com/index.php/Olympus-E-M10/Birds

    So it is very capable. The 500mm on APS-C is excellent, on m4/3 it takes a little more work and care due to the extra crop factor. Just be patient with it and it all comes with practise on m4/3. Keep those shutter speeds high and the ISO as low as possible and it all clicks together.

    All the best and look forward to seeing a few shots when you can.

    Danny..
     
  11. faithblinded

    faithblinded Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ken
    Interesting comparison. Crazy you did it all with legacy glass(except the wide one). You sure have a nice collection of MF big guns! Thanks for sharing this.
     
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  12. Ravenscroft

    Ravenscroft Mu-43 Rookie

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    Thanks for this - it's very reassuring :) The main reason I got the e-M10 was to use with the old FDs. I had pretty good results with them on my Canon body using a specialist adapter, but was interested to see what a mirrorless body would bring.
    The bird shots are great - can I ask if you use focus peaking, or magnification, with these? Espectially the in-flight shots?
     
  13. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

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    pellicle
    good to see someone still using a G1

    :)
     
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  14. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    I use focus peaking on the Sony NEX-7, but not on the E-M10. The Oly version of focus peaking is not great on a moving target. Magnification in the EVF on BIF's is impossible to be honest. It magnifies far too much and you can't find the bird in the frame. So on the Oly which has an excellent EVF (it really is a good one), I just focus forward or backward with a few frames on a slow burst. You might be interested in this with the lenses, techniques, etc ......

    http://birdsinaction.com/thisandthat

    It sort of explains why I went mirrorless and the techniques I use. Every one is different though and we all find what works best for us. So there is no right or wrong, just different.

    About the only way I would go Canon DSLR with FD lenses is with the Ed Mika kits and I have thought about it. The advantage with mirrorless is that there are no added optics in the adaptors. I just use El-Cheapo adaptors from China. One for each lens.

    All the best.

    Danny.
     
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  15. Ravenscroft

    Ravenscroft Mu-43 Rookie

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    The Ed Mika adapter is the one I have - I was lucky enough to get one of the first numbered run of his .75mm adapter. Since then I believe he's got it down to .5mm.
    It's a truly impressive piece of work, and on the long white glass can give you infinity focus without optics in the adapter, which is excellent. I'd recommend it without hesitation :)
     
  16. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    Ahhh, good on you. I think some of the Ed Mika's also gives focus confirmation which is pretty darn clever. Not sure how good it works or how accurate it is, but clever none the less. That's exactly how I would go about it with a Canon DSLR as well. The engineering from what I've seen on those adaptors is a real work of art and nothing is skimped on with material quality. Very impressive.

    What's good with mirriorless is setting up the EVF so a lot of guess work is taken away with the exposure you see. For me that makes the system really fast to use when using manual settings. With the 500 F/4.5L you don't need to stop it down at all if you don't want to. The IQ is excellent wide open.

    All the best and BTW, welcome to m4/3 ;)

    Danny.
     
  17. faithblinded

    faithblinded Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ken
    I agree with Macro that magnification is useless for BIF. Anything that makes the bird larger in the VF makes it harder to stay on target. Fortunately with MF, there is no concern with keeping focus points on your subject, so that's one less thing to think about. In many ways, BIF are almost simpler to shoot with MF. If only someone would invent an 8 megapixel EVF, maybe we wouldnt need the focus magnification any more, and could achieve focus success more regularly with MF. This is the only thing keeping me from shooting some of the beautiful MF glass like Macro does. I don't have his patience for the low keeper rate. Of course, my 300/2.8 costs several times what these FD lenses cost, so everything is a trade off. AF is no guarantee of anything though. There is no substitute for practice when it comes to shooting long focal lengths and BIF. AF lens or no, I have a ways to go before my portfolio gets even close to Macro's, for birds.
     
  18. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    Keeper rate with MF is an interesting one. Out of 5-6 shots I expect 2-3 to be in focus using a slow burst. Fast bursts for me are a waste of time, maybe just a me thing, or it could be the refresh rate of the EVF. On a static bird its real easy with MF and the Oly EVF is a good one for it.

    Even the FF folks shooting 500 F/4's, 600 F/4's still miss even on a 1Dx. Some birds and especially smaller birds coming into a perch the AF is just not quick enough and some backgrounds, PDAF still has issues with getting the correct focus point. They still have certain advantages for sure and fast AF on a BIF is one of them. Higher keeper rate it has to be.

    What's interesting is that out of a fast burst from the same position and distance, the FF shooters still post up similar shots, so it makes you wonder how many of those shots out of a burst get the chop. I have a fair idea with the shots I see on the nature forums from the folks I shoot next to. Certain wing positions and lighting on some shots are just simply better. Head on BIF shots is where they nail it far more in a burst. Side on, not so much. They can also shoot at higher ISO's and that in turn raises the shutter speeds or drops the aperture.

    The 500mm on APS-C gets more keepers than on m4/3 and that's a focal length thing vs the crop factor. Personally I would find 400mm (being picky, 350mm) a perfect focal length on m4/3. 500mm on a BIF with m4/3 is not as easy as it is on APS-C. Again a static bird, not an issue. m4/3 still takes a lot of beating and it gets easier all the time.

    All the best and it would be interesting to see what others folks use and how they get on with AF and m4/3.

    Danny.
     
  19. faithblinded

    faithblinded Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Ken
    Danny, have you ever seen the Olympus OM 350mm 2.8 lens? It's a beauty. One of the only OM super tele's that really revs my engine. Always wanted to take one for a spin.
     
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  20. macro

    macro Mu-43 Regular

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    I do remember it and that would be one worth chasing. A Canon FD 400 F/2.8 also comes to mind, but they still go for a bomb in cost. Chris uses the Canon EF 400 F/2.8 on a 5D MKIII and I've tried it a few times, man it is one heck of a lens, where is he ...

    DSC02990.
    He needs to pull his jeans up though ;) One heck of a shooter he is and just realised, he should have the hood out. So that's the other lens I would like, except for the cost :)
     
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