FL-600R Users: Please Advise

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by marklikesit, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. marklikesit

    marklikesit Mu-43 Regular

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    Hey guys,

    Hope you're all havin' a good weekend.

    I just bought myself a FL-600R flash unit for my OM-D today and it's really fun playing around with light modelling :)

    However, in several instances, I'd bounce the flash off the ceiling to illuminate the foreground subject, but the background gets super dark.

    I'm on Aperture Priority mode and no matter how I boost the Exp compensation on the OM-D, the background still remains rather dark and seems to be only illuminated by the flash + bounce, but the lens itself doesn't seem to be picking up much light.

    Normally with these settings (without the flash) the scene would be bursting bright. Seems like the flash somehow overrides everything.

    Pushing the exp compensation doesn't seem to change things much. Does this have anything to do with first and second curtain flash?

    Hope someone can guide me here - the FL600R's manual is rubbish.
     
  2. alans

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    This should help you get started and then you can fine tune to your needs.

    In Manual set the camera exposure for the background at 2-3 stops under.
    Use the flash for your subject. TTL is fine for normal subjects, ie not Batman or a snowman.

    This will get you in the ballpark and then you can change the ambient and flash settings accordingly for the lighting balance you are looking for. IMO it's hard to do this on auto or program as lighting conditions vary too much for consistent results.
     
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  3. radamo

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    Great advice and a good way to use bounce flash on almost any camera.
    RA
     
  4. marklikesit

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    AlanS,

    Thanks so much for your reply! I tried it, works great. I just wanted the flash to act as a fill light and not the key light. I've got a lot more control now thanks to your little tip.

    Can someone please fill me in on what the difference between these are?:

    - TTL A (thru the lens auto)
    - TTL A FP ?

    What does FP stand for?
     
  5. marklikesit

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    Oops, guys, I think I spoke too soon.

    Set the flash to "M" only, and just set up my OM-D as I would normally to take a shot. The flash had compensation down to - 3.0 stops. Hit the shutter and everything's blasted white.

    I've got the flash turned all the way down already, can't go any further.

    Do you guys still read the histogram normally when using flash units?
     
  6. marklikesit

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    *BUmp*
     
  7. sokar

    sokar Mu-43 Veteran

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    Hi Mark,

    I use the FL36R with similar features to the FL600. Flash in manual mode is allowing the flash alone to determine the amount of flash required. The camera therefore has no input into determining the amount of flash required.

    TTL = through the lens. Camera is telling the flash how much light to fire. This is limited by the flash sync speed of the camera and at times the flash unit. I am not 100% certain of the EM5's sync speed but I assume it is around 1/200.

    FP TTL or HSS (high speed sync) is used for high speed flash sync where the shutter speed will be faster than the camera / flash sync speed. For outdoor use this is extremely handy for shooting wide open in bright conditions. FP works by emitting a number of pulsed lights rather than one fire.

    Sorry, I am no expert on using the histogram.
     
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  8. marklikesit

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    In Manual mode, is there a way to reduce the amount of flash through the unit itself?
     
  9. marklikesit

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/marklikesit/8062423403/" title="Olympus FL-600R by Mark Soon, on Flickr">[​IMG]"1024" height="872" alt="Olympus FL-600R"></a>

    Here's my new toy!
     
  10. LowTEC

    LowTEC Mu-43 Regular

    You can use smaller aperture, that will help dimming the object in front and brighten up the back ground
     
  11. marklikesit

    marklikesit Mu-43 Regular

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    Is there no way to power down the flash a bit?

    When I use a small aperture, the background gets really dark and the foreground object gets lit by flash only. I wanted a mix of ambient lighting + a bit of flash for fill.
     
  12. robknight

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    With the flash in M mode, press the 'mode' button twice. Use the dial to raise or lower the GN (guide number) which changes the flash output. You may also want to make sure the flash mode on the camera is set to 'fill flash' and not auto.
     
  13. marklikesit

    marklikesit Mu-43 Regular

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    Oh man, Thanks Rob! I've been waiting for an answer like that all day :)

    One quick question, where can i find the fill flash option on the OMD?
     
  14. robknight

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  15. robknight

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    In the SCP (super control panel) it is the icon just below the ISO
     
  16. marklikesit

    marklikesit Mu-43 Regular

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    Rob! It worked! The GN setting did the trick. I just dialed it down, perfect exposure.

    Thank you thank you thank you. :)
     
  17. marklikesit

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  18. robknight

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    Cheers! Happy lighting
     
  19. marklikesit

    marklikesit Mu-43 Regular

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    Rob: You totally made my day :)
     
  20. MrKal_El

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