I was walking back along the beach and I saw some guys fire dancing in front of a hotel. Thinking that this was a great chance of a shot I took out my camera and took a few. I couldnt get too close as I wasnt a guest at the hotel. I decided to use the tried and tested photographic technique known as 'random settings'. I knew I wanted a reasonably long shutter speed to catch the trails of flames. Any automatic settings would result in overexposed white flames with no detail and the remains of the shot underexposed. I added a flash to freeze the guy while he was spinning. I took a dozen shots and got one good one. What is interesting is the settings on this shot. shutter 0.4 secs F stop F20.0 (that is twenty) iso 400 Flash EV +2.0 I was shooting manual so the effective EV I would guess at -4.0 to avoid overexposing the flames. The flash was in TTL which wasnt much good but even at +EV 2.0 it wasnt bright enough to expose the guy properly at F 20.0. Yes very whacky settings I will admit (some working against the others). Anyway I looked at my photos, looked up fire dancing on the internet (a pretty hopeless exersize) and decided to go back and eat at the hotel to catch the fire dancers again. Actually my settings werent out as much as you might think. You basically need a decent length shot.... 0.4 to 0.8 seconds.... You need to massively underexpose the ambient light so as not to overexpose the flames - at least - 3.0EV. So ..... F8.0 ISO 200 And you need to push your flash EV right up as the TTL will be fooled by the flames into thinking the photo is brighter if you want the flash to properly expose the dancer. So.... FEV +3.0 So good theory. Unfortunately I went to have dinner at the hotel and they didnt turn up. Luckily walking back I bumped into a kid practicing on the beach (dont try this at home folks). And fired off about 25 shots of which half a dozen turned out pretty well. I used the settings as above.... Incidentally the one thing you absolutely dont need is a tripod even though you are shooting at 0.6 of a second. You are essentially dealing with two light sources. The fire that is moving and makes it own print on the photo that will not really be effected by your movement and what is lit by the flash that freezes the motion of the dancer. Is it worth its own thread? Probably not. But shooting fire dancers is a lot of fun and maybe people could add their shots and improve on the settings.