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Featured: 'The Sigma 60mm f2.8 - My quick review!' by spatulaboy

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by spatulaboy, Jun 7, 2014.

  1. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    I've had the Sigma 60mm f2.8 DN lens for a month and I just love this thing! This lens has been out for about a year now but it hasn't gotten much attention at all. I have a feeling it's being overlooked due to it's 60mm focal length. It's sandwiched right between the Olympus 45mm f1.8 and 75mm f1.8 lenses (exactly 15mm between each). Honestly I find the 60mm FL great for portraiture, the 75mm is amazing but it is a little tough to work with sometimes due to its long FL. I got it for portraiture, which it excels at, but I'm finding it pretty useful for other stuff too! I really don't want to be too wordy with this, instead I'll just say what I like and don't like, and put up lots of pictures!

    The Good

    1. Rendering: Sharp. Punchy. Great contrast wide open. Nice bokeh. This thing produces really nice images and it's very noticeably different from the Olympus rendering.
    2. Price: This lens is around $230 dollars. For it's performance it's a bargain. If you want a long portrait lens but don't have the money for an Olympus 75mm, get this lens. It will get you close for 1/4 the price. Amazing.

    The Bad

    1. Start up delay. When you turn on your camera it takes a good two seconds for the lens to activate. It's not a deal breaker but it might annoy some people.
    2. f2.8 aperture. Ok I've seen the comments about how "f2.8 is not good enough for Micro Four Thirds". I am not in that camp and this lens can handle most situations wonderfully. However I can't help wonder how much more desirable this would be if it was at f2. I bet Sigma would sell a lot more of these. Then again it probably wouldn't cost $230 bucks.

    Anyways that's my quick and dirty review. On with the pictures!

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    306/365 Spring Beauty
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    A nice day in the garden
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    Blossom
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    315/365 A picnic to remember
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    Table with a view
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    Male Model
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    327/365 Essentials of Philosophy
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    On the prowl
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    Wonder
    by Vincent-F-Tsai, on Flickr

    Some non-portraits:

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    Reclaim
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    Pop
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    Standing out
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    Paloma
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    334/365 All by myself
    by Vincent-F-Tsai, on Flickr

    So in conclusion: I LIKE IT A LOT. :thumbup:
    Of course we all shoot differently and have different needs, so what works for me might not work for you. But there is no question this is a good lens. I can only hope Sigma would stop dipping their feet in m4/3 and just jump in fully with a dedicated lens. However, if they can't sell this lens for $200 bucks I'm not holding my breath for future commitments from them. :(
     
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  2. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    I agree that this lens is fantastic. Great pics like usual. It's slow, but I think it renders well enough to buy on its own merits, not just because a 75 is too expensive!
     
  3. Fmrvette

    Fmrvette This Space For Rent

    May 26, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    Jim
    Hi Vin!

    With the 19mm and 30mm at $199 U.S. I was hoping that the 60mm would follow suite when released...and then hoping for a holiday (Christmas? Chanukah? Kwanzaa? Ramadan? Saturnalia?) sale...now it's Mother's Day week (U.S.) and no sale :mad:.

    Not that $30 is a make/break part of the package but I don't really need the Sigma 60mm - it would just make the next logical step in my cheap-gents prime collection (14mm, 20mm, 30mm, 45mm). It doesn't help that the Olympus 60mm is on sale at $399 U.S. and the Olympus offers macro and weather sealing. If I did a lot of macro it would be a no brainer, but I don't and the Sigma seems (from all I've read) to have the upper hand in everything non-macro over the Olympus.

    So I'm still on the fence on getting a 60mm...and for deciding which one is preferable for my shooting style. (Probably "none of the above" would best apply :biggrin:).

    Thanks for posting the review and the photos!

    Regards,

    Jim
     
  4. bhima

    bhima Mu-43 Regular

    143
    Mar 25, 2014
    Great review and fantastic photos as always. I really love this lens: extremely sharp, great contrast and the AF speed is VERY quick on my EM-10. I agree with your last statement as well, if Sigma doesn't sell a truckload of these, there is no way they are jumping in full-steam with m4/3. I hope more people discover this lens as it is in another league compared to the other sigma lenses.
     
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  5. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    Yeah I know, that was my point. You would think a quality lens at this price would be selling by the boat loads, but it is not.
     
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  6. Fmrvette

    Fmrvette This Space For Rent

    May 26, 2012
    Detroit, Michigan
    Jim
    I should think it's a tough sell - it's up against the 45mm (a good lens in it's own right) the 75mm (possibly the best single lens in the mu4/3 inventory) and the identically ranged Olympus 60mm (which offers superb macro capability and weather sealing).

    I'm not denigrating the Sigma 60mm at all - but it has a lot of tough competition. And when the Olympus 60mm is on sale (as it currently is) for "only" $160 U.S. more than the Sigma it's even tougher sledding. When the Olympus goes back up to it's more normal $260 difference then it's an easier decision to jump on the Sigma as the better deal (unless macro is a must have feature).

    For those that already have the 45mm the 75mm, even at the premium price it commands, might be a more tempting focal length than the 60mm. There simply isn't enough of a gap between the 45mm and the 75mm to justify spending even $239 (and having yet another lens in the bag).

    To me (and YMMV) the 60mm is the 'next logical step' between the 45mm and 75mm - the 15mm additional range over the 45mm is enough of a gap to justify owning the lens. My conundrum comes from having two good 60mm lenses available simultaneously, each having unique features.

    Also from having to explain yet another lens to the Princess of the Exchequer :biggrin:.

    I assume, however, that Sigma realized all of the competitive offerings before they jumped into the market so not selling a huge number of the lenses might not be unexpected. 19mm, 30mm, 60mm ... can a 90mm f/2.8 be out of the question? :biggrin:.

    Regards,

    Jim
     
  7. HaViet

    HaViet Mu-43 Veteran

    311
    Mar 20, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Thanks for the review Vin, and great photos.

    I keep hearing so many good things about this lens, it's so tempting but I am just starting out and barely had my EPM2 for 2 months. I can't have too many lenses while still learning the basics of photography.

    Now which of my Oly 17mm f2.8 or Sigma 30mm f2.8 I need to sell to finance this 60mm. Suggestions?
     
  8. tjdean01

    tjdean01 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    842
    Feb 20, 2013
    I got the 30 new for $130 and if the 60 goes $150 I might bite. Problem is that they make some 57 or 58mm lenses we can adapt and those are f1.4 or f1.7. Sure, the Sigma will be without a doubt sharper, but how much sharper? Anyone do a comparison?
     
  9. bhima

    bhima Mu-43 Regular

    143
    Mar 25, 2014
    It depends. This siggy is just a little sharper than my minolta 50mm at f2 but it more than pays for itself by having autofocus.

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  10. LowriderS10

    LowriderS10 Monkey with a camera.

    May 19, 2013
    Canada
    I'm not even interested in this lens, but I really enjoyed your review/pictures. :) Well done!
     
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  11. GFFPhoto

    GFFPhoto Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 24, 2013
    If you want speed there are other lenses, this one is really about the way it renders (and I don't mean just sharpness, although it is very sharp). It has great contrast, great colors, smooth bokeh, and is fantastic with rendering highlights (just look at the photos)
     
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  12. Bull Winkle

    Bull Winkle Mu-43 Regular

    28
    Feb 5, 2014
    SoCal
    I got all 3 Sigma's, couldn't beat the price/quality. Still learning to use my gear. Thanks for the review and pics, they look great.
     
  13. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Vin
    I have a Minolta Rokkor 58mm f1.4. Maybe I'll do a comparison. A three way shootout with the Oly 60mm macro would be interesting.
     
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  14. bhima

    bhima Mu-43 Regular

    143
    Mar 25, 2014
    Ihave a minolta 50 f2 that i used before getting the siggy. The bokeh on the minolta is intersting though busier than the sigma. Sharpness goes to the sigma vs my minolta and having AF helps a ton ;)

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  15. Cruzan80

    Cruzan80 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 23, 2012
    Denver, Co
    Sean Rastsmith
    In fairness, the md 50/2 is not known for being the sharpest of that bunch. Wither the MC/MD Rokkor 50/1.4 is (forget which).

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  16. ean10775

    ean10775 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 31, 2011
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Eric
    I decided to pick this one up as its currently discounted $30 at B&H and I've been considering an AF lens longer than my 14-42mm kit lens (currently the only AF lens I have for my E-PL1), but didn't want plunk down the cash for the Oly 75mm. I like what I've seen of the rendering both from Vin's photos here and the native lens image thread. To Vin's point about people saying f2.8 isn't fast enough for a m43 lens, I don't think I'll mind the f2.8 aperture in this case as I'm unlikely to use this lens indoors due to the longer FL and outdoors I should be able to use it near wide open without an ND filter, even with the modest top shutter speed of the E-PL1.
     
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  17. Dramaturg

    Dramaturg Mu-43 Top Veteran

    614
    Jun 7, 2013
    Ukraine
    Yevgen
    Vinc, how does it compare to 75mm? Oly is very good for full body shots as it produces that FF look. What about Sigma? It seems that you mostly use it for head or half body shots. Why is that?


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  18. WendyK

    WendyK Super Moderator

    Feb 28, 2014
    Northern Virginia
    Wendy
    I think you'll be very pleased with it for those purposes. I use it outdoors and most of the time I use it wide open and it does a fantastic job. I don't own the 75mm to compare it to, but the Sigma 60 makes me not covet the 75.
     
  19. ean10775

    ean10775 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 31, 2011
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Eric
    Thanks. My copy arrived from B&H this morning - nicely put together lens and very nicely packaged by Sigma. The black version matches the two black finishes used on the E-PL1 (semi-glossy and matte) very closely. I like the look of the lens more than I expected to. I've only taken a few test shots around the office to see how the autofocus performs (silently and accurately, though a bit slow on the E-PL1, but that is to be expected), but it seems like it will be a very useful lens, particularly for tight portraits (I use my X100S for pretty much everything else).
     
  20. spdavies

    spdavies Mu-43 Top Veteran

    966
    Apr 9, 2013
    Hawaii
    Stephen
    Does anyone have any sense of how this lens compares to the Pan 35-100 at the same focal length?
    IQ-wise, sharpness, bokeh, etc.
    Thanks.