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Featured Forum Post: 'A Day on the Street with the Body-Cap Lens'

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by Ray Sachs, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila
    I spent this morning in Philly doing some shooting. I played around with the 75mm for a while and eventually got one shot I consider mildly useable - that's mostly gonna be a long portrait lens for me I think - I'm not determined enough to learn to see images at that focal length. And I did a little bit of shooting with the 12mm in low light situations where I needed the larger aperture. But I did the vast majority of the shooting with the body-cap lens. I enjoyed it immensely. Just monitor the exposure compensation and keep the ISO where it needs to be for adequate shutter speeds. Its not the sharpest lens, as I think we've determined, but I'm not the sharpest shooter, so it works for a lot of this kind of shooting. For me, at least. Hell, Cartier-Bresson thought that sharpness was a bourgeois concept, and if that idea was good enough for him....

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    And here's one with the 12mm, for good measure, showing off the OMD's amazing IBIS again - 8/10 of a second, handheld, and only the movement is significantly blurred...:

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  2. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Those are a great set. The "Guy with an iPod" is a truly excellent image.
  3. twokatmew

    twokatmew Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Lansing, MI, US
    All great shots, Ray. But I especially like that last one! :smile:
  4. tuanies

    tuanies Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 13, 2011
    Graham, WA
    Tuan Huynh
    I really should order one before I head to Vegas for CES
  5. Livnius

    Livnius Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Melbourne. Australia
    Love that second shot. It all looks so imposing....the arch, the pillars, even that bloke looks the part. Great low point of view.
  6. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila
    The best $50 lens I've ever used, for sure!

  7. RevBob

    RevBob Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Jun 4, 2011
    NorthWestern PA
    These are great! I haven't had a chance to really use mine yet -I've been busy since it arrived. Looking forward to giving it a good test drive - these photos make me anxious to get to it. :biggrin:
  8. Great series. I think that 1 and 5 were the best for me (+ the long shutter image. I'm a sucker for those). I won't be getting the bodycap lens for myself, tho. It's one of those things that sound really cool but I know I'll never use it.
  9. spinyman

    spinyman Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 19, 2010
    San Diego
    Wonderful shots,Ray, as always.#1 and #2 look like your camera was almost on the sidewalk.Were you crouching?2 and 3 look like dynamic filter,yes?
    I agree with you and Bresson,sharpness is overrated!
  10. GaryAyala

    GaryAyala Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 2, 2011
    +1 on all counts.


    PS- Henri was more about PR than photography.
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  11. Biro

    Biro Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    May 8, 2011
    Jersey Shore
    Nice work, Ray. I've one on order from B&H right now. I take it you put the camera into "no lens" mode via the menus. After that, do you shoot in manual mode or does the camera continue to do some kind of metering?
  12. twokatmew

    twokatmew Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Lansing, MI, US
    Use Aperture mode, and the camera will meter.

    Sent from my phone. Please pardon my brevity!
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  13. 0dBm

    0dBm Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 30, 2011
    Western United States
    Excellent set!
  14. Dangermouse1968

    Dangermouse1968 Mu-43 Regular

    May 26, 2011
    Fantastic shots Ray, it might not be the best lens in the world but you made darn fine use of it :)  thanks for sharing.
  15. Kingsfan

    Kingsfan Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 22, 2010
    highland park, CA
    and people were like "what's the point of this lens?"
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  16. caimi

    caimi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 13, 2012
    middle US
    Caimi caimiphotography.com
    Fantastic images, especially the last.
  17. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila
    The low shots are just one of the benefits (to me) of the flip up screen (or fully articulating, if that's your preference). Yeah, I had the camera down pretty low. I was just kind of in a squat looking down at the rear screen, which was looking up at me.

    I shoot the Oly's with raw pretty much exclusively, so no in-camera filters. Just overdone, processing, which I'm often accused of and generally plead guilty to. But for me its a guilty pleasure, so I keep doing it. :cool: 

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  18. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila
    You say that like its a BAD thing... :biggrin:

    If I could shoot like he did, I'd be out there promoting it too...

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  19. Ray Sachs

    Ray Sachs Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Apr 17, 2010
    Near Philadephila
    Panasonic makes you choose "shoot without lens" or whatever they call it from the menus. Olympus doesn't, but if you want stabilization, you have to designate the focal length - I haven't remembered to do that yet with the body cap because I'm shooting in good light with it and in circumstances where stabilization wouldn't really be an issue. This is not a lens I'll push into low light situations, so I doubt I'll ever get around to it.

    And, yeah, as noted, shoot in aperture priority and the camera will meter off of the light coming in through the aperture and set the shutter speed based on that. The little focus/lens cap slider had a detent at the 6 o'clock position that's where you set it for its hyperfocal setting and I basically have just left it there - haven't shot anything close enough to have to focus closer than that. Its a really fun and easy lens to use and kind of perfect for an awful lot of the kind of shooting I like to do.

  20. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Yeah, but for you it's a working style. You clearly have a good eye and your PP, however extensive, really works to make a better image. Lots of folks use heavy PP to try to fix a bad image, with the expected results. I'm generally not a fan of extensive processing, but your stuff is like the like the voice of Darth Vader extolling the power of the Dark Side.:jedi: Can you suggest some tutorials, etc., so I can begin to play with some of the processing you use?
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