Exposure compensation on the Pen F

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by pdk42, Oct 15, 2016.

  1. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    A colleague of mine has just bought A Pen F and I played with it the other night. It is a very nice feeling camera but I really didn't get on with the exposure compensation dial. I use exp comp a lot and found the dedicated dial too hard to turn with the camera to the eye. No problem I thought, I'll just assign it to the rear dial - but it seems they've removed the option to set exp comp to the dials. Is this correct or am I missing something?

    I have to say this would be a deal breaker to me if so.
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  2. Philip Scott

    Philip Scott Mu-43 Regular

    Apr 28, 2016
    Valley Forge, PA, USA
    E/C dial on my Pen-F has gotten a little easier with use. If I have to choose....'little loose and easily bumped' or 'little tight and needs more effort', I definitely have to choose the latter.
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  3. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    I played with a Pen F at Dixon's and figured out how to get the rear dial to be exposure comp. Basically, before you can set it to act as exposure comp, you have to first set the exp comp dial to be flash exposure comp. Obvious huh?

    Anyhow, I've got one on order now!! Decided I'd sell my E-M5ii and old E-M5 plus their grips to (mostly) fund it.
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  4. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    That's good to know. Maybe a bit of dedicated dial spinning when I get mine will loosen it up more quickly! It would be nice to use it and then reassign the rear dial to ISO. That would really work well.
  5. sdb123

    sdb123 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 25, 2014
    Northants, UK
    You & me both Paul...I've been hankering after a Pen-F recently and have been getting nagged from immediate family as to what I'd like for my birthday (I'm an awkward December baby!). A nice silver Pen-F should be with me next week. :)
  6. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    I also found the EC dial stiff so I mapped it onto the front dial and the EC dial was basically an ornament. The only other option for the dedicated dial is to map it to flash compensation. Amusingly, I then kept hitting the EC dial by accident :rolleyes-38: so I mapped it back to the dedicated dial.
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  7. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    I guess we all do things differently. For me, exposure comp is the most used control. I rely on the over/under blinkies to direct exposure so almost every shot I take involves rotating the exp comp dial. It wouldn't worry me at all if I moved it by accident since it's second nature for me to adjust exp comp anyhow. That's why the dedicated dial just doesn't work far me. It needs to spin freely and easily with the camera to the eye (so using only the thumb to control it) - and it's just too stiff for that.
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  8. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    I work like that as well. I just find that I take a lot of quick shots and the EC always seems to be in the wrong place. Anyway, you can reassign EC to the front dial and it works as well as the OMD bodies.
  9. twenty200

    twenty200 Mu-43 Regular

    Dec 20, 2015
    I wish the exposure compensation dial was an ISO dial.

    It does bug me that the exposure comp dial is so stiff, but I quickly got into the habit of reaching for it with my thumb and index finger. With one finger, it's way too stiff, but using the thumb and index finger together, it's the perfect stiffness. Because of how it's positioned on the rear corner, I wonder if it was intended to be turned this way...?
  10. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    It's odd that it's been designed the way it has. If a dial needs two fingers to turn it can only mean that the designer assumed it would be infrequently used and with the camera away from the eye. Unless you shoot in M mode, I think that's an odd assumption.
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2016
  11. Pluttis

    Pluttis Mu-43 Veteran

    Nov 14, 2016
    I have no problem with the EC-dail, sure its stiff but no problem to use/operate with just the thumb...hopefully it will loosen up a bit after being used more.
  12. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
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  13. Hcbruijn

    Hcbruijn Mu-43 Rookie

    Sep 1, 2017
    Adelaide South Australia
    I have no problem with using the dial. Any looser and it would move more by accident than it already does. I come from an epm2 so having a dedicated EC dial exactly where it is, is a god send. I'm relearning photography because of this camera.
  14. Robstar1963

    Robstar1963 Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 10, 2011
    Isle of Wight England UK
    Robert (Rob)
    Thanks Paul
    The most useful tip I've read here !
    I wouldn't have figured that out myself
  15. ph.

    ph. Mu-43 Regular

    Feb 14, 2010
    A pocketable camera tends to get roughly handled when coming out of the pocket. At times I discover too late that my Pen F has had the wrong button set. If not by too much, it can be fixed in the computer by twiddling controls on the raw file, but this is time consuming and annoying.

    When the far less pocketable Leica R8 had the easily-mis-set-dial problem, the similar R9 was provided with a locking button.
    An easier way than providing buttons, would be if Olympus got around to a software update that could fixate the lightmetering spot in the centre, instead of the current situation where it movies randomly around when fished out of pockets. If so, a spot metered, high- or lowkey, or just right, exposure could be decided by where you aimed when half-pressing the shutterbutton.

  16. 2112

    2112 Mu-43 All-Pro

    I've only had my F for about a week now and I find the EC dial very usable while shooting and like that it is stiff and stays where I put it at all times. Now I find myself reaching for it while using my E-M5 II. Would have made since if they would have designed it to match the OM-Ds for those that have both. But over all its not an issue.. I don't see my OM-D getting all that much use anymore as it sits in a bag these days..
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