I've been looking at way too many camera bags for an upcoming trip and I think I've narrowed it down to primarily either the Tenba Cooper Slim or the Billingham Hadley Large. Right now I mostly use a Crumpler 4 or 5 Million or a Tarmac Aria 6. They are good for what I do which is traipse through the woods or on the beach, go to lacrosse & basketball games, those sorts of things. I usually also carry a backpack and this has worked well for me with my Em10 and 4-5 lenses. We're doing an Italy trip in June where we'll be a week in Venice, a week in the hill towns and a few days in the Dolomites. We also have to deal with the smaller carry on dimensions-the max for a "purse" which is how I plan to use the bag is 15.7 x 11.8 x 4. Both bags are around that. As I said I want to use it as my walking around bag without needing a second purse type thing. Both of those look OK to me-I don't want a girly type bag or anything too much in any way. Something kind of in unobtrusive but acceptable looking, if that makes sense. Does anyone have experience walking around with either bag or even something similar that you could recommend? How are they for walking around all day? Is it easy to stick an Ipad or Nook in and still have room for a wallet and your camera equipment? I'm still trying to decide what to bring in terms of equipment. As I said, I have an EM10. I bought the Oly 9-18 specifically for this trip so will take that. Also my 45. Other than that, I have the Panny 20, Oly 14-42, Oly 40-150, Oly 60, and Oly 75-300. Not planning to bring the 20, 14-42, or 40-150, And the 60 or 75-300, not sure which. I carry extra batteries, cards, a few filters. So the rest of the interior would be for non-camera things, wallet, keys, map, Ipad. So what bag will best suit walking all day and climbing in and out of Vaporetti while not drawing undue attention, at least because of my bag? Thanks for any and all practical advice. I am not much of an urban traveler.