EPL5 - a decent small body for under $100?

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Since my wife sold her GM5 (it had a sticky dial which was driving her mad) I have missed the portability of a small camera - something I could stick the P12-32 on and put in a coat pocket for a walk, for example. I've looked long and hard at what's available, and decided what I wanted was something that could still take an auxiliary VF when needed, but can still be bought at a rock-bottom price. My research has led me to the EPL5 as a candidate, and so I wanted to reach out and ask people who may have one what their thoughts on it are.

I know the rear screen is the wrong proportion, and it's only a 604 resolution screen. I know the battery life could be better, too, but is there any other really big issue that should stop me getting an almost unused copy for under $100? I don't do video, and I hear it takes fine images....

Any information would be much appreciated....
 

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Sensor-wise, it's as good as any other 16MP, but beyond that there's a lot lacking compared to an E-PL7/8... there's a pretty thorough discussion about that here, you can evaluate what matters to you. Biggest thing IMHO: don't expect good IBIS.
 
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I have no complaints on image quality. The inferior IBIS is one problem. The back dial is another. I have had problems with that dial not working reliably since the 3rd year I owned it (of 7 years now). Have read of others with the problem as well.

If you're set on a range-finder style, maybe consider the E-P5, if you can find a good deal. It supports the VF-4. The shutter-shock problem went away after the zero-delay firmware fix. It is a heavier piece of kit, but feels great in my hands and balances better with heavier lenses. I haven't had any problems with mine yet (~6 years now). Otherwise, I would consider the E-M10ii for IBIS and viewfinder.
 

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The sensor is beautiful but shutter shock ruins it for me.

Also the camera works somewhat okay with P12-32 but very poorly with P35-100 (very poorly!) I don't know what's the deal. I'd personally look at EPL6 or EPL7 even though it's rare they are sold for $100.
 

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I started my m43 journey with an EPL5. I took lots of pleasing shots with it, but I wouldn't buy one now, unless cost was 100% the most important factor:

- Poor IBIS
- Prone to shutter shock
- Rear dial reliability
- No EVF (this has become a deal breaker for me)

Personally, I'd go for an EM10.2. Fantastic camera that fixes all the above issues and adds a few additional benefits like in built flash and electronic shutter - and can be found at reasonable prices on the used market.
 
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I started in mu43 with an E-PM1 14/42 40/150 kit and the pm1 14/42 went everywhere with me.
I progressed to a e-M10 and bought a 12-32 thinking that would also go everywhere with me, but after the pm1, it still felt too big.
I convinced myself it was the hump and bought a GX80 but found that it was still too big/heavy, even though it was easier to get in and out of large pockets.

I thought about a PM2 or a PL7/8 but in the end got a used LX100 for a very good price. It fits in most of my pockets and for a walk about camera outshines the GX80 12/32 combo in every respect, size, weight, speed and IQ. Doesn't have the flexibility of an ILC but I have 2 of those already .
 

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Yes, they great little cameras. My wife still uses one every week to prep vlogs or her web images... I am not even allowed to look at it... You could also look at the EM10 MKI and MKII or the EPL7 is a huge step up from the EPL5 and offers great video functions like timelapse and more... One sold over here a week ago for $130... like new
 
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EPL7's seem rarer than hen's teeth over here, as do 8's and 9's. Plus the prices I do see are not what I want to pay. The LX's are also out of reach, alas.

But thanks for the advice, everyone - I think I'll give it a miss and keep saving the pennies for something down the line.
 

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but in the end got a used LX100 for a very good price. It fits in most of my pockets and for a walk about camera outshines the GX80 12/32 combo in every respect, size, weight, speed and IQ.
I tried the LX100 twice (both used, but mint). Both had serious focus issues - one wouldn't focus on anything beyond about 2m and I could only get distant objects sharp by stopping down to f8. The other was better, but I found I needed to take 2-3 shots of every scene to get one that was sharp (and I'm not nit-picking about sharpness, I mean completely blurred). It's a pity because I was otherwise very pleased with it. With a tilting rear screen and a slightly larger viewfinder it would be the absolutely perfect camera (with focusing that works!).
 

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Did you try and get your LX100's looked at by anyone?? I wonder what was causing those problems...
No, I didn't. But some reviewers found similar issues:

https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2015/01/26/my-panasonic-lx100-thoughts/
Steve Huff said:
The AF of the LX100 seemed speedy enough but in MANY cases it would confirm focus and the result would be an out of focus image. I was using center point, so I knew where the camera should be focusing but it was telling me it nailed it and the results said otherwise. I had enough of these misses (more than any other camera I have used) to make me wonder what was going on with it. It started to frustrate me and made me not want to use it.
https://www.lindsaydobsonphotography.com/personal/panasonic-lx100ii-field-review-first-impressions
Lindsay Dobson said:
One of the complaints about the original LX100 centred around autofocus. When focused at infinity or distant objects there was a tendency for some examples of this camera to entirely miss focus, resulting in blurred photographs. I had a few instances of that. My standard day-to-day focusing mode is to use a very small centre square. I’ll then focus lock and recompose is needed, or I’ll move the focus area as necessary. To overcome blurred images at long distance I found that switching to pinpoint autofocus (the crosshair) completely resolved the problem. However not every photographer was successful with that technique.
Also:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3855345
https://www.mu-43.com/threads/lx100-af-issues.94848/
 
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