It seems from what engadget said that they are..Is the macro light and pen bluetooth module only for e-pl2? .
Agreed. The wheel on the back of the G12 is so easy to use, as is the control dial on the front. That was one thing that I have yet to be impressed by with either Oly or Panny. I've gotten a lot better with the one on the back of the GF1, but it's still harder to use.If the wheel is anything like the lower one on the E-P1 it'll be terrible. The Canon G-series cameras implement this far better - you can actually turn the wheel without pressing it down so easily
I don't mind the wheel on the ep2 at all (which I believe is the same as the one on the ep1). I use it almost exclusively, and rarely adjust anything with the thumb dial unless I'm in full manual mode, which I rarely am. Then again, I had a Canon S90 for a while and I didn't mind THAT ring either and many people were pretty nearly apoplectic about how horrible that ring is/was. As long as there's a way to switch between the primary function (shutter or aperture) and ev control, one ring is plenty for me, as with the gf1 and lx5.If the wheel is anything like the lower one on the E-P1 it'll be terrible. The Canon G-series cameras implement this far better - you can actually turn the wheel without pressing it down so easily
I'm gonna probably find a way to live without the macro lights!the macro light is definitely a "must have", but all those gadgets seems very interesting
any idea about the price?
It could be that mine doesn't rotate as freely, but I don't even use the wheel on my E-P1 as the only way I can operate it effectively is to use my thumbnail. The wheel on the G10,11,12 sits about 2mm proud from the camera body and has sharper knurls that allow you to grip it properly without having to apply excess pressure.I don't mind the wheel on the ep2 at all (which I believe is the same as the one on the ep1). I use it almost exclusively, and rarely adjust anything with the thumb dial unless I'm in full manual mode, which I rarely am. Then again, I had a Canon S90 for a while and I didn't mind THAT ring either and many people were pretty nearly apoplectic about how horrible that ring is/was. As long as there's a way to switch between the primary function (shutter or aperture) and ev control, one ring is plenty for me, as with the gf1 and lx5.
To each their own, but I don't find that ring "terrible" in the least...
Interesting - I thought the more common complaint was that it moved TOO easily and people are forever changing settings accidentally when their thumb brushes the ring. I KNOW that's the issue most had with the S90 ring and all sorts of mods were developed to make it less easily moveable. I've never had a problem with either though, for some reason.It could be that mine doesn't rotate as freely, but I don't even use the wheel on my E-P1 as the only way I can operate it effectively is to use my thumbnail. The wheel on the G10,11,12 sits about 2mm proud from the camera body and has sharper knurls that allow you to grip it properly without having to apply excess pressure.
When it comes to the E-PL2 at least one wheel is better than none, even if it may (or may not) be a bit awkward to operate.
What exactly does the orientation sensor do? Does it mark the picture so that when using an editor the editor can detect it and rotate it properly? Or is this just the sensor for when viewing the picture on the LCD when taken in portrait mode(vs landscape)?I don't mind the wheel on the ep2 at all (which I believe is the same as the one on the ep1). I use it almost exclusively, and rarely adjust anything with the thumb dial unless I'm in full manual mode, which I rarely am. Then again, I had a Canon S90 for a while and I didn't mind THAT ring either and many people were pretty nearly apoplectic about how horrible that ring is/was. As long as there's a way to switch between the primary function (shutter or aperture) and ev control, one ring is plenty for me, as with the gf1 and lx5.
To each their own, but I don't find that ring "terrible" in the least...
Frankly, everything I prefer about the ep2 that I didn't like in the epl1, this epl2 addresses. Except for an orientation sensor, but that's a very very very small issue. The gf1 doesn't have it either and I'm definitely not throwing that one back because of it. I don't need one of these and won't buy one (my next m43 purchase will be something with the AF speed improvements of the GH-2 and hopefully an articulated screen, preferably in a rangefinder type body - come oooooonnnnn EP-3!). But if I was in the market, the epl2 now seems to be as nice as any of the existing Oly bodies. And is aesthetically even pretty damn close to the venerable ep1/ep2 look. A very nice step from Olympus I'd say.
-Ray