Engadget goes hands on with new Panasonic GF3!

Discussion in 'Panasonic Cameras' started by FridayFriday, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. FridayFriday

    FridayFriday New to Mu-43

    Apr 20, 2011
    Engadget just got their hands on with the Panasonic GF3! It's official:

    Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3 official: 12.1 MP, 1080i video, no hot shoe in sight (hands-on) -- Engadget

    I found shocking that the GF3 loses the hotshoe, and moves to mono stereo. It's smaller and lighter. Seems Panasonic is catering to a different crowd now??

    The GF3 will be available in July for $699 with a 14mm lens, to be followed in late August by a $599 kit that comes with a 14-42mm lens.​

    Okay, I don't feel so bad now with my recent purchase of the GF2!

  2. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    I don't think that they're necessarily catering to a 'different' crowd, but rather attempting to make their product line more distinguishable.

    My impression is that this is where they're going:

    - Entry (small body) - GF3
    - Entry (large body) - G3
    - Enthusiast (small body) - ?
    - Enthusiast (large body) - GH2

    In this sense I expect that a GF1 replacement will be next on the cards, to fill the 'Enthusiast (small body)' category.

    I dunno, people have been bitching about the loss of a hot-shoe and so on, but really, how many entry-level buyers actually use an off-camera flash? I think 99% of the people complaining would never consider buying it anyway...
  3. KS11

    KS11 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 31, 2011
    Busan/Hong Kong
    interesting place for a flash...it does look like it can be tilted bckwards like the olympus pens epl1 or epl2?

    i wonder(since the 14mm is such a small lens) that other lens will look and feel monstrous on it)

    btw in response to those who lament the lack of a hotshoe, this is prob for those who want to use a evf attachement to it.

    my question would be:
    would the gf3 be a good body for legacy lens then? (prob not)
  4. phigmov

    phigmov Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Apr 4, 2010
    DPReview have got it too.

    I think looks kind of cool - like an old fashioned Pen EE, Canonote or Demi.

    With a pancake lens it puts an awful lot of power into a seriously compact package.

    Probably a bit small for my hands though - I like the heft and feel of the older GF1/EPx series.
  5. Photorx12

    Photorx12 Mu-43 Regular

    May 11, 2011
    More from their site (used chrome translator)

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  6. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Re: EVF - quite possibly, but then once again, how many entry-level shooters coming up from a P&S are going to care? Likewise for use with legacy lenses.
  7. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Panasonic confirms plans to release advanced GF camera | News | PhotoRadar

    Speaking to PhotoRadar’s Head of Testing, Angela Nicholson, Panasonic’s Director of DSC Business unit Ichiro Kitao said that although he was unable to confirm a date for such a camera, he said that Panasonic plans to split the GF series into two lines and release a GF camera aimed at experienced photographers.

    Apparently they are working on an advanced GF body :smile:
  8. dapipoy

    dapipoy Mu-43 Regular

    Mar 31, 2011
    midlands, uk
    for mf lenses, a viewfinder is a must. but there is accessories that you can use, to use the lcd as the viewfinder. i use lcdvf on my gf1 for doing macro photography using canon fd lens.

    if this has hotshoe, ill be tempted to get one. i need external flash for my macrophotography.
  9. dapipoy

    dapipoy Mu-43 Regular

    Mar 31, 2011
    midlands, uk
    i use my gf1 for street photography. most of the time, i shoot from the hip. gf3 will be even better for that as this is more compact and faster af!
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  10. DekHog

    DekHog Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 3, 2011
    Unless Panny start making smaller lenses, what's the point in all this 'shrinkage?'


    Even the 14mm looks way too big for it...... it's starting to look as silly as a Sony Nex....
  11. linkedit

    linkedit Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 6, 2010
    New Jersey, USA
    If you really look at it they have 3 camera lines.

    GF - for point and shoot converts
    G - more dslr like
    GH - enthusiasts

    They have been moving away from anything that would be the successor to the GF1. I don't think we'll ever see a pro GF type camera.
  12. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus

    Dec 15, 2009
    I guess the Sony NEX is selling well enough to attract a direct competitor in the form of this camera... I really don't mind that Panasonic are extending further into the P&S sized format, it all provides choices. This camera would be perfect for the kids.

    I'm obviously more excited about a higher spec camera to compete with the ergonomics of the Fuji X100. I'm sure we'll see this in due course in m4/3rds, although it is a little frustrating that Fuji delivered before either m4/3rds player.


  13. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Did you see the PhotoRadar interview? Panasonic have said that they plan to split the GF line and release an enthusiast model.
  14. linkedit

    linkedit Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Aug 6, 2010
    New Jersey, USA
    I think we'll see Fuji release an x100 variant with interchangeable lenses before Panasonic. That was kind of ambiguous comment from the Panny guy. We plan to do it, but can't say when?

    Everyone is looking for a GF whatever that is like the X100. What would be the difference between that camera and the G3? The EVF would be on the left side and it would have more physical controls?

    Panny has a very clear product line now, though it may not be what "we" would like to see. I think the comment from the "Head of Testing" at this point is just heresay.
  15. Pim

    Pim Mu-43 Regular

    It's not for me, just a bit too small and sacrificing too many direct controls (small size with coupled with good controls was the key reason for me to move from SLR to micro 4/3, giving up either one negates the overall advantage in my opinion....). However given the success of cameras like the NEX there is clearly a market for these, and if success for the GF3 means more investment in our system (and maybe more support form other companies like 3rd party lens manufacturers) this can only be a good thing right? Just as long as Panasonic and Olympus don't forget about us enthusiasts and keep bringing out more advanced models.... Looking forward to upcoming Olympus news right now...:)