EM1 with Oly 50-200mm SWD lens and MMF-3

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by RamblinR, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    Have been eyeing off this lens for its focal length.
    Does anyone have this combination?
    How quick and accurate is the focus on the EM1?
    I understand it would use the phase detection system for focus, is this good or bad - are the images as crisp in focus as contrast detect?

    Also, anyone using them with the EC-14 or EC-20?
    Is the EC-14 the better one (sharper images and only loose one stop of light)?
    How is the focus with the converter on?

    Thanks
    Maria
     
  2. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    I've recently picked up a 50-200 non-SWD (+ MMF3) for my E-M1. I'm extremely impressed. IQ is superb and AF is more than adequate - fast enough and accurate. I'm sure the SWD version will be even better. It's a lens with an excellent reputation and now owning one, I can see why.
     
  3. Serhan

    Serhan Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    May 7, 2011
    NYC
    Yes, I have the non SWD version. I tried with EC-20, gets softer and slower as expected but it is not bad. The lens is same size as new 40-150mm and has more reach. It was also much cheaper used at Keh... I think below are af shots w EC-20 on EM1:

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  4. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    I used to own the non-SWD 50-200mm and it was excellent, and it worked very well with the EC-14. I don't think that you could go wrong owning this lens. The E-M1 PDAF will work fine, it certainly does with all my other 4/3 lenses.
     
  5. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    So far sounds good.
    Can it be used wide open (tend to use all my lenses wide open as Olympus is that good. Guessing this would be the same?

    I see it is a little heavier than the new 40-150 lens (around 100g) but it is about the same length with a 67mm filter vs 72mm for the new lens.
    So 100g plus the converter and you get 50-200mm vs 40-150mm. Hmmmmmmmmmm
     
  6. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    The difference in size and weight between the 40-150mm f/2.8 and 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 is really negligible with a slight edge to the new lens. Add the MC-14 to the new lens and the MMF3 to the 50-200 and the 50-200mm is slightly lighter and smaller but still negligible.

    I've been using the 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 on the E-M1 and it is very worthy. Focus is quick (but not real quick) and very accurate. IQ is excellent. Highly recommended.

    Here is what I wrote in thinking about getting the 40-150mm f/2.8 lens -

    For personal use, even if I did not already have the 20-200mm SWD f/2.8-3.5, the 40-150mm and MC-14 cost would probably coax me to the 50-200mm and MMF3 adapter. Even at new cost that is a USD 470 difference! And there are quite a few very good used 50-200mm and MMF3 deals out there making them very sweet in comparison.

    I may very well keep the 50-200mm for another year or so. The 40-150mm lens will have to produce significantly better IQ with the MC-14 than the 50-200mm is capable of (highly unlikely considering the IQ of the 50-200mm), or Olympus needs to offer an extremely good deal on the 40-150mm/TC before I would likely purchase one soon.
     
  7. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    How does it compare in focus speed to the Oly 75-300 4.8-6.7 II (the micro four thirds one) which I am currently using and I'm guessing I would see a dramatic difference in image quality?
     
  8. mattia

    mattia Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 3, 2012
    The Netherlands
    The 50-200 SWD, with or without 1.4x TC, works very well on the E-M1. It is slower than the native glass (I had the 100-300 panasonic to compare it with), but AF performance is at the very least acceptable. It's not an optimal lens for birds on flight or tracking fast moving objects, but that's more of a camera weak spot (relatively speaking) than an issue with the lens.

    It is a fantastically sharp lens, and sifting through my Safari shots, I actually have very, very few out-of-focus shots in the whole lot, and most of those were camera shake (shutter speed too low) or misfocus because of a blade of grass/plant between me and my desired subject. I'll be posting a few sample images this weekend since I'm still processing the lot..
     
  9. 350duser

    350duser Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 26, 2012
    Brisbane, QLD
    The internal zoom mech is driving me towards the 40-150. Fixed aperture of 2.8 in 40-150 is another plus as the aperture changes quite quickly off the 50mm mark in the SWD lens.
    Great prices for the 50-200 currently!!!

    Decisions!!!
     
  10. OzRay

    OzRay Mu-43 Legend

    Jan 29, 2010
    South Gippsland, Australia
    Ray, not Oz
    There is no doubt that the 40-150mm will be a very fast focussing and very high quality lens, but if really fast focussing isn't an absolute imperative, the 50-200mm with it's extra reach and high quality is a very close contender and at a considerable price advantage. If I was looking for another lens, somewhat smaller lens with more reach than my 35-100mm f2 (in lieu of my 90-250mm), I'd seriously consider the 50-200mm once again.
     
  11. RenaudVL

    RenaudVL Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 21, 2011
    That's my wildlife setup, and really love. Only down side, is the focus hunt a bit in some situation.

    You myth find this thread usefull
    https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=64939

    Here is a sample handheld....
    OM-D EM-1, 50-200mm SWD with EC-20, ISO 1250

     
  12. MAubrey

    MAubrey Photographer

    Jul 9, 2012
    Bellingham, WA
    Mike Aubrey
  13. MarkoPolo

    MarkoPolo Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 25, 2014
    Greeley, CO
    Mark Brown
    I have the 50-200 SWD with the 1.4 TC and the 75-300 II as well. While the 50-200 is better as far a IQ, not as much as you might think. The 75-300 really impresses me as far as IQ goes.I think it focuses faster and more accurately than the 50-200 in bright light. Coming from Canon, I would rate the 75-300 IQ as good as or better than the Canon 100-400 and the 50-200 very close to the Canon 70-200 II with the exception of rather odd and non-pleasing bokeh. Having said that, I do intend to get the 40-150. If it's as good as the 12-40, it will be killer.
     
  14. RamblinR

    RamblinR Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 16, 2012
    Sunshine Coast, Qld Australia
    Maria
    WOW, zoomed out this is much larger than I had assumed.
    Actually didn't realise that it wasn't an internal zoom.
    Might be more than I want for size

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  15. AussiePhil

    AussiePhil Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jun 1, 2014
    Canberra, ACT, Aust
    Phil
    Too easy, send it over to me and i'll look after it.....

    Seriously though you are now a fully fledged pro with the really big long lens and the giant hood :biggrin:

    Actually serious now, I'm hunting one of these to buy at a reasonable price but still plan to buy the 40-150 2.8 at some point, hopefully can convince the mrs that it would be a good xmas present :)
     
  16. silver92b

    silver92b Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    I have the 50-200 non- SWD and tried it with the E-M1. I found the A/F to be pretty good in most cases with the "hunting" issue appearing while shooting close-up under low light. However, the IQ is excellent. I have not tried it outside yet for wildlife, but inside under low light (artificial light), it produced some very nice photos. I posted these elsewhere, but here you go for example.... I shot these over a black piece of cloth on my dining room table one night... The lighting was very challenging, you can see the reflection of the chandelier on the watch....

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  17. DoofClenas

    DoofClenas Who needs a Mirror!

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    Nov 9, 2012
    Traverse City, MI
    Clint
    Had one and sold it to MarkoPolo ^^^ (a few posts up). I sold mine before the latest firmware release. It was usable then for me, and the IQ was great, but I was finding that it was just too big of combo for that body. It really was meant for for the 4/3 body. I now have the hld-7, so that may change my mind on the balance of that combo.