E410 replacement

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Alan Reeve, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Alan Reeve

    Alan Reeve New to Mu-43

    5
    Sep 12, 2017
    I have an E410 which needs replacement. Which one of the new Olympus DSLR cameras could replace it. I have many lens. I know the camera. I am looking for an improved light sensor and ability to use the same lens. Thank you
     
  2. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    What lenses are you using? There are no new DSLR's. Only mirrorless cameras. The only bodies that are going to give you decent focusing on old legacy lenses (via MMF adapter) are the Olympus EM1 (or EM1.2 which is new and expensive). You can find a used EM1 for under $500. If you want to stick with the old DSLRs, you'll probably need to find a used E5, E3, E30. Depending which lenses you have, you may want to convert to the M43 lenses.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    If you want to use your existing lenses, then you'll need to get an E-M1 and MMF-3 adapter. The adapter is necessary to account for the difference in flange distance between Micro 4/3 cameras and the older 4/3 DSLR's, as well as the differences in the mount design. The E-M1 is only one of two m43 cameras that has the phase detect AF pixels necessary to focus the majority of the older 4/3 lenses. Used E-M1's can be had for around $500. If you're unsure about buying used, keep an eye out on the Olympus Refurbished Factory Outlet, where they sell refurbished equipment. You'll pay a bit more, but they come with a 90-day warranty from Olympus, and you have the option during those 90 days to extend the factory warranty an additional 2 years by purchased an extended OMD warranty for ~$75-90.

    If you plan on keeping the camera for a long time, which I'm assuming you do since you're just now replacing an E-410, this is probably the best route to go.

    There is a newer version of the E-M1, the E-M1 II, that is available for $1,700 from the Olympus Refurbished Outlet. It's definitely a nice camera, but it's also way more expensive than an E-M1. Note that currently, there are no refurbished E-M1's available directly from Olympus.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Alan Reeve

    Alan Reeve New to Mu-43

    5
    Sep 12, 2017
    Thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately the easy route in buying an E-m1 from the refurbished Olympus store is out as they do not ship to France. I have seen a few on EBay however I am concesrned with what i will revieve.
    Perhaps it's a good time to replace everything. I am loathed to do so as I have had Olympus all my photo career. O still have my OM1 and OM10 kit with misc lens.
    In which case what do you recommend.
    Thanks
     
  5. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    Ebay has buyer protection as does paypal, if there's a real problem. Just use sound judgement and not to worry. There are also European sellers on our Buy/sell section here. If you are using kit lenses, I'd upgrade everything. If you have any of the better Olympus lenses, you may want to hang onto them, unless you prefer a different model than the EM1. No matter what you do, you're looking at using ebay or similar site for used, whether you buy 4/3rds or M43. I've bought tons of used lenses and bodies and never had to return one.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Alan Reeve

    Alan Reeve New to Mu-43

    5
    Sep 12, 2017
    Thank you again. Good recommendation.
     
  7. Balinov

    Balinov Mu-43 Regular

    93
    Oct 8, 2015
    Dublin
    Balazs
    Hi Alan, you may try mpb.com - Buy or Sell Used Photo & Video Equipment, who's specialized in used camera equipment and besides their US division they do trade in the UK as well (and have a dedicated topic here.

    Few photog friends of mine bought CaNikon and MFT gear off their UK site with a delivery address in Hungary so I assume they'd delivery to France as well. Their FAQ states they deliver to the EU for 19.95GBP and I see they've EM1MK1's starting at GBP 394..they do give 6mths warranty for all used gear they sell. IMHO if you're moving from the old(ish) E410 the EM5MK1 might be a good choice as well. They sell it from 244£
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  8. ionian

    ionian Mu-43 Top Veteran

    982
    May 20, 2016
    Kent, UK
    Simon
    Definitely check out mpb.com for an EM1 with six months warranty, and pick up a decent adapter from Amazon or ebay. You can adapt your OM collection as well as the four thirds lenses, although they will be manual focus only.

    Even if you decide to go a different route, I'd recommend starting with this kit because you will lose very little if you decide to sell it down the line - prices are already at rock bottom so it's a wining proposition. Plus it's an excellent camera.
     
  9. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    I think you'll be pretty impressed with the performance of the E-M1 with the MMF-3 compared to your E-410. It is a big step up in sensor performance and usability, and a small investment compared to replacing your whole system. I would definitely 2nd those recommendations, if you can find a seller with a warranty.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  10. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    Unless you have any of the 4/3s High Grade or Super High Grade Lenses, my advice would be to move on to m4/3s gear. Everything is smaller and lighter except flashes.

    The O-MD E-M5 Mark II is about 6mm less in height and width, and the thickness the Mark II is nearly 15mm thinner than the E-410. The O-MD E-M10 Mark II is mm's smaller than the E-M5 Mark II.

    For lenses you could get exact replacements for the lenses you currently have, or maybe opt for something you might like better.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. Alan Reeve

    Alan Reeve New to Mu-43

    5
    Sep 12, 2017
    Thanks for all the get back and suggestions. I now have my E-M10 Mark 2 camera. surprisingly it came with a small 14 to 42mm lens so immediate shots impressed so far specially with the low light shots. I am still waiting for the m43 converter. But so far so good.
    Thanks
     
    • Like Like x 2
  12. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    What other 4/3's lenses do you have that you used on your E410?
     
  13. RAH

    RAH Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    578
    Dec 1, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Rich
    I agree with your choice, Alan. For one thing, the E-M10 matches your original DSLR, as far as position in the Oly lineup (the E410 was not a high-end DSLR). So the only reason folks were recommending the E-M1 (a high-end camera) was because of your desire to use your old 4/3 lenses. But then many recommended that you switch to m43 lenses anyway (I agree with this). So, switching to m43 lenses opens up a lot of possibilities for the camera, including the E-M10II, which is the best bang-for-buck, IMHO.

    As far as using 4/3 lenses on the E-M10, I found that some work OK, some not, as far as focus. The only one I tried that absolutely would not focus properly at all was the inexpensive 40-150. But considering that the m4/3 40-150 f4-5.6 is VERY inexpensive (and very good, IQ-wise), there's no point in using the old 4/3 lens anyway.

    One thing - I DID want to use my 4/3 9-18 lens on the E-M10, but I had a lot of trouble with the IQ. The problem turned out to be the adapter itself - I had a B&H Vello brand adapter. If you are going to try to use a 4/3 9-18 lens on your E-M10, I'd recommend that you buy either a Panasonic or Olympus adapter, not any less expensive ones. Myself, I eventually bought a m4/3 9-18 used for about $425 and I am glad I did. Once again, going m43 with the lenses really is the best choice (unless you have high-end 4/3 lenses, which was never anything I did).

    Hope this helps and good shooting with your E-M10II!
     
  14. Alan Reeve

    Alan Reeve New to Mu-43

    5
    Sep 12, 2017
    Hi I missed this response my apologies. I have 2 main lens in use zuiko 11 to 23 (2.3 to 3.5) and a 18 to 180 zoom (3.5 to 6.3)
    I was looking for a longer lens but have not made up my mind. Still waiting for my M43 adaptor.
    Regards
     
  15. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    They sound like they would be worth adapting then.
     
  16. RAH

    RAH Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

    578
    Dec 1, 2013
    New Hampshire
    Rich
    I'm not so sure that the 18-180 is worth adapting, Ross. Not when you can get a m43 40-150 f4-5.6 very cheaply. The 18-180 was never known for its sharpness (just the opposite).

    Edit: Oops, wait - the 18-180 is a "super-zoom." My mistake. I guess it might be worthwhile, although back in the DSLR Oly days (E-520), I had that lens and seldom used it.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  17. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 21, 2014
    The 11-22 is a very good lens, and I have it. But it barely autofocuses on any camera except the E-M1. It will take ~4 seconds to hunt and confirm focus. I manually focus it on my GX7 most of the time, but even the MF ring is not very nice to use, as it has too short a throw, and is undamped fly-by-wire.

    If the 18-180mm is anything similar, I wouldn't use it for a walk-around lens. The 11-22 is okay because you can manually focus it, and it has deep depth of field. But the 11-22 is also really sharp, and has a large aperture, and weather-sealing. I'm not sure the 18-180mm has any of those attributes to recommend it.