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E-P5 17mm kit vs E-M1 body only

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by e_kjellgren, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 17, 2011
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    With the current discount on E-P5 I can get an E-P5 with the 17mm plus VF-4 for €1174.

    The E-M1 body only is €1499, so there is a €325 difference.

    Which deal would do you concider the best?

    Today I've got the E-PM1 with a bunch of prime lenses and looking to get the new generation of sensor.

    For reference, the E-PL5 with 14-42 is €599 and E-Pm2 is €449.

    E-P5 body only is €743.

    EM-5 is €1099 with 12-50 and €899 body only.

    /Regards Evert
     
  2. Viktor

    Viktor Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 27, 2012
    Denmark
    I really would not think so much about the deal, but what camera/lense fits your needs.
     
  3. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 17, 2011
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    No other thoughts? It's a €300 price drop on the EP5 alternatives.
     
  4. gochugogi

    gochugogi Mu-43 Veteran

    Personally I'd pick the camera that feels best in my hand and has the features that suit me. If you're not in a rush, both cameras will gradually drop in price. The E-M1 is priced extra high now since it is new and Olympus is taking advantage of the excitement of buying the latest and greatest.
     
  5. HarryS

    HarryS Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    It's clear that the money saver is the the EP5. VF4, and 17mm, but that's only viable if you want and need that camera, lens, and viewfinder.

    If you already have the 17mm bracketed with your existing primes, or own an EVF for the EPM1, then maybe you won't be so happy. On the other hand, the larger body and the OM1 form factor of the EM5 may not fit your EPM1 shooting experiences.

    I guess you're lucky that where you live, you can probably drop into a sales room and see both cameras.
     
  6. dougjgreen

    dougjgreen Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 5, 2013
    San Diego
    Doug Green
    OTOH, the buyer could easily turn around and sell the 17mm for $350 or so. I very nearly bought one of these same kits with the intention of doing that. It would have brought the cost of the E-P5 plus VF4 down to around $900 or so for me. But I ended up getting a mint E-PL5 with a VF-2 for about $450 instead.
     
  7. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    I have neither that focal length nor a viewfinder, so it should probably fit me good. The question is how much better the camera is than my E-PM1? Ofcource only I can answer if it's worth it, but does anyone have an example of comparing pictures from both sensors?
     
  8. monk3y

    monk3y Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 14, 2013
    in The Cloud...
    Steven
    If improved sensor is your main concern for upgrading and or if you are pretty comfortable with the E-PM1 controls, you could save a lot of money by just getting an E-PM2 or E-PL5. Both of these cameras have the same sensors as those on E-M5, E-P5 and I think pretty much similar to the one on E-M1 as well minus the PDAF pixels. :biggrin:
     
  9. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 17, 2011
    Sweden
    Maybe I'd be better off expanding my lenses?
    Got 14,25,45,75 and would like the 9-18 and 75-300.
    How much of an upgrade would the new sensor be?
     
  10. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 17, 2011
    Sweden
    I have now found the EM5 body for €615 and EP5 w 17+VF4 for €1104.
    Any thoughts? Maybe the EM5 is the best deal considering what it went for from the beginning, or what do you think is "the most value for money"?
    I think the geek in me is mostly drawn towards the EP5 with the 17mm and EVF.

    /Evert
     
  11. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Hey Kjellgren have you been waiting twenty days with indecision?
    In my mind they all do something different, and I'm wanting an e-P5 specifically for five things ;
    1. Nice feel and controls, like my favourite e-P2
    2. Takes my existing VF-2 which tilts up.
    3. Reinstates ISO 100 which was stolen away in the previous range of cameras.
    4. 1/8000 shutters, for F1.8 on sunny days without filter.
    5. MySets assignable to mode-dial.

    If none of those points apply to you, buy the E-M5 or e-pL5 at their decent prices.
     
  12. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Surely the EP5 cant be worth almost the dubble then the price of EM5? The same sensor and IS right?
     
  13. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Current lowest shop prices in Britain are £742 for E-M5 body, £778 for e-P5 body which is newer.
    So : not almost double, rather almost the same price.
     
  14. dougjgreen

    dougjgreen Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 5, 2013
    San Diego
    Doug Green
    Of course, the E-P5 doesn't have a viewfinder - so figure another $150 or so for a VF-2 or $250 or so for a VF-4 to be directly comparable to an E-M5

    Otherwise, I'd agree, nowadays, pristine E-P5 bodies sell for maybe $50-100 or so more than a pristine E-M5 body.
     
  15. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    EM5 body new - £497
    EP5 body new - £660
    EP5 kit new - £940

    /Evert
     
  16. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 17, 2011
    Sweden
    EM1 body €1207
    EM1 12-50 €1403
    EM1 12-40 €1794
    EP5 17 VF4 €1121

    Ordering one of these tonight, which would you prefer yourself?
    Put me out of my misery! =)

    /Evert
     
  17. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Or the EPL5 for €399? =)
     
  18. e_kjellgren

    e_kjellgren Mu-43 Regular

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    Went with the EM1 + 12-40. The hunt is over.