E-P1; who else prefers the Oly 17mm to the Panny 20mm?

Mosca

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There's nothing wrong with the Panny 20mm; this isn't about which lens is better, really, but about which one fits which user. I prefer the Oly 17mm. I like the wider aov, and I really, really prefer the smaller size and lighter weight. I'm sure there are going to be situations where I'll want the 20mm and that extra stop, but for now, for me, I think the Oly17 is the hot ticket, not the Panny20.

Who else agrees, the 17mm is the one that fits their style better?
 

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Ya got me in there. I love the 20 for low light but my natural FOV is 35mm. So the 17 fits perfect. I also have the finder for it and that really gets me back to my old Leica comfort zone.
 

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That's why I bought the 17mm for my Pen 1, as I prefer a wider field of view. It'll make a nice sized knockabout camera, a P&S so to speak. I'll know for sure when it arrives. :biggrin:

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to me, the 1.7/20mm is too expensive for what it offers, even though i am a dedicated fan of the "format diagonal" normal lens.
i also dislike focus-by-wire and aperture-by-camera. consequently, my favourite remains the snapshot skopar, closely followed by the 17mm (which comes into the game when extreme compactness is required).

hm.
i see, my opinion is quite off-topic with regard to the original thread opener ...
so, please ignore me.
 

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ive been hearing and seeing such excellence from the 20 1.7 i kinda want one even though i consider it a moderate fast normal in line fov wise with 40-50 mm fast primes for 35mmand as such i think 200 dollars would have been a fair price at 400 its grossly overpriced for what it is a plastic non ois hockey puck with a dime sized front element , but it is an optically excellent hockey puck , ill concede that

for now i get by with my 17 2.8 i like it a lot in spite of it plasticy-ness and cheezy silver paint job:smile:
 

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i love my 17f/2.8. its small, light and very quiet. the 34mm is extremely versatile. so far, vof is never a problem.

if there's ever a 17f/1.4 --- now, thats perfect.
 

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the 17mm does the trick for me. I also prefer the 35mm FOV and I like the quality of the pictures it makes. I'm going to shoot with it exclusively (sp?) until I am the master of this lens....:thumbup:
It is interesting you would write that; I was thinking the same thing. Every time I've done that in life, decided to take one thing and understand it completely, I have learned far more than I ever thought possible; not just about whatever it was I was learning about, but also about things that connect to what I chose, and to things completely unrelated but that share similar (for lack of a better word) gestalt.
 

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I'm the same, I love the 35mm POV.

Most of this stems from the best film camera I ever owned, the incomparable Konica Hexar. Interestingly the form factor is very similar to PEN/GF1 style cameras, and my PEN E-P1 with the FL14 and 17/2.8 mounted almost perfectly recreates this vibe.

However, the 35mm Hexanon on the good old Hexar was a far superior lens! Frankly nothing could touch it! And it was f2.0 too...
 

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So we got a movement going.
I have a new 35 hex in the original box.
It was given to me by an old Vet. I like it better than the Cron.
Because of that and other things, the 17 is my favorite lens.

It's easy to figure out hyperfocal on the 17 also.
 

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The Hexar AF is my favorite camera of all time hands down, fast, quiet, and an incredible lens. But the EP2/17mm is gradually taking its place in my heart. While the Hexar's lens is in an entirely different league, I do enjoy what I can coax out of the 17mm.... I'm looking forward to what I'll learn in the next 12 months shooting with it....
 

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Could the 20mm f1.7 be one of the best modern lenses ever from a price performance usability user friendly standpoint

no contest - I would sell my 17mm tomorrow - the 20mm would be the last to go
 

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Bill,
I totally understand. I have both and justify it like this.
I could get a similar image from both lenses by moving just a little....but...the perspective changes and that can't happen...soooo, I guess I have to keep both...
My wife bought that by the way.....

The Hex is a fabulous lens but on the Pens...it's a 70 and I hate that....
it's my favorite 35mm lens next to my Version 2 Cron. I sent that back to Leica many years ago to have it reground and have the coatings removed, they thought me crazy but the lens records beautifully....on Tri-X.

The 17, here, back to the original thread has a very pleasing representation of 35mm. I think it gets a bad rap next to the 20. It shouldn't cause it's a great lens....
the size makes the Pen sexi....I know but I'm hitting 61 and things like this are sexi now....
 

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Bill,
I totally understand. I have both and justify it like this.
I could get a similar image from both lenses by moving just a little....but...the perspective changes and that can't happen...soooo, I guess I have to keep both...
My wife bought that by the way.....

The Hex is a fabulous lens but on the Pens...it's a 70 and I hate that....
it's my favorite 35mm lens next to my Version 2 Cron. I sent that back to Leica many years ago to have it reground and have the coatings removed, they thought me crazy but the lens records beautifully....on Tri-X.

The 17, here, back to the original thread has a very pleasing representation of 35mm. I think it gets a bad rap next to the 20. It shouldn't cause it's a great lens....
the size makes the Pen sexi....I know but I'm hitting 61 and things like this are sexi now....
I need to get out more and use the 17mm

but the 20mm ALWAYS steals the show - day - night - inside - outside - up - down - around and about - low light - slow speed - wide open - it can do anything - close up - portraits - panos - etc - etc - I have a few good MF - but the 20mm always beats them for my ability and level of photography - I started with the 14 45 - everyone said get a 20mm - I thought, hell I've got the 14 45 why spend £300 on a 20mm - BUT best purchase I ever made - simple as that
 

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Yeah Bill, it does all those wonderful things except one very important thing to us 35mm seeing folks....no matter what, no matter how,...it ain't a 35mm FOV......
 

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Yeah Bill, it does all those wonderful things except one very important thing to us 35mm seeing folks....no matter what, no matter how,...it ain't a 35mm FOV......
I love the 34-36mm focal length. I find myself using it quite a bit on the kit zoom, and this range is sharp on the kit zoom.

I find myself not purchasing either prime because I can't afford both, and neither offer exactly what I want.
 
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