E-M5 or E-M10?

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by parodying, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. parodying

    parodying Mu-43 Rookie

    Jun 3, 2012
    The used prices for both are about the same right now, but I can't decide which one I want more. The WIFI on the E-M10 is tempting (do people actually find a relevant use for that though?) and the weather sealing on the E-M5 is tempting as well. Which model seems like the better deal?
  2. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
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    The EM10 also has the "0 sec anti-shock", which is the electronic first curtain shutter that minimizes shutter shock. Of course, the EM5 also has 5 axes IBIS vs. the EM10's 3 axes version. The buttons are less mushy on the EM10. I sold an old EM5 and bought a refurb EM10 and they are very similar in producing results. I also have an EM1, which is my rainy day camera. I realize I've been no help, but if the weather sealing is not important to you, the EM10 is a real possibility.
  3. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 13, 2012
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    David Dornblaser
    We had the E-M5 and we still have E-M10. I would choose the E-M10. FWIW - I don't use the WiFi to download images. It is, however, great to use a remote trigger.
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  4. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    Personally I would go with the EM5 because of the better IBIS and the weather sealing. I recently picked up an Olympus 17/2.8 to use on my EM5 (which until now was just sitting on a shelf in my office) as my always with me camera. I had been taking my EM1 but decided that the EM5 would be better in case something happen and I lost or had my bag stolen. The one thing I was concerned about is not having the wifi to get photos to my phone to post to IG or FaceBook, then I remembered that I had Eye-Fi card that I had gotten when I shot a Fuji XE1. I find using the Eye-Fi card a lot easier then using the wifi in my EM1. One of the reasons I find it easier is I only shoot RAW and with the Oly app I have to convert a photo to jpg then transfer it to my phone and finally delete the jpg image from the card. The Eye-Fi card will transfer RAW files to my phone, making it just a lot simpler.
  5. nzdigital

    nzdigital Mu-43 Regular

    Oct 20, 2010
    New Zealand
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    Probably won't be any help either - but I just recently got the E-M5 Mk2 second hand for an excellent price.

    I was also tossing up between the original E-M5 and E-M10, and would have gone for the 'newer' E-M10 if my E-M5 Mk2 hadn't come along at just the right time. There isn't much between the two, so I would have gone for the E-M10.
  6. davidzvi

    davidzvi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 12, 2012
    Outside Boston MA
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    Newer tech with several updates vs better IBIS and weather sealing?

    Personally I would pick the E-M10. Updated AF, processor, etc all favor the E-M10. And weather sealing is only as good as the lenses sealing. Also there are several little things that make the E-M10 seem a lot like an E-M5 with a few issues resolved (mushy buttons and 0 anti shock, to name just 2).

    But only you can say if the better IBIS and if you have weather sealed lenses would make a difference for you.
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  7. gary0319

    gary0319 Mu-43 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2014
    Sarasota FL
    Buy my E-M10, since I accepted your offer.
  8. budeny

    budeny Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 4, 2014
    Boulder, CO
    imo current EM1 used prices of $600-ish makes it better deal.
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  9. CWRailman

    CWRailman Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 2, 2015
    Scottsdale, Arizona
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    Even the DPReviewers noted in their conclusion that unless weather sealing was a must they would pick the E-M10 over the E-M5.

    And personally I do not see much difference between the 3 way and 5 way IBIS system unless you take a lot of video while drunk then maybe it might have some advantages.:)
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  10. Klorenzo

    Klorenzo Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 10, 2014
    +1 for the E-M1
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  11. Robstar1963

    Robstar1963 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 10, 2011
    Isle of Wight England UK
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    Robert (Rob)
    Get the EM10 and add the ECG1 grip
    This is a simple grip with no additional buttons or dials - much simpler than the HLD6 grip for the EM5 and much more comfortable and ergonomic
    Have had both EM5s and EM10s just got rid of my latest EM5 and returned to an EM10 again
    EM10 for me without doubt
  12. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    E-M10 unless you shoot in adverse weather conditions. Saying that, I use the wifi capabilities quite a bit to upload shots to social media when on the fly.
  13. flamingfish

    flamingfish Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 16, 2012
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    I agree with Phocal: "Personally I would go with the EM5 because of the better IBIS and the weather sealing." I don't do much with social media, so wifi wasn't important for me.
  14. sdb123

    sdb123 Mu-43 Regular

    Jul 25, 2014
    Northants, UK
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    I have the E-M10 with additional ECG-1 grip....I found it to be more comfortable to handle than the E-M5. The E-M5 is still a great camera but is the oldest of the OM-D's available now; yes, the weather sealing is a good thing however you need to use the appropriate lenses to recognise the benefit in full. The 5-axis vs 3-axis is not a massive difference unless pushed to the extremes.

    In terms of the E-M10, it is the last in the first generation of OM-D's; the buttons are positive not mushy, it utilises the same Truepic engine as the E-M1, has more AF points, MF Peaking, Wi-Fi (great for remote shots or sharing jpegs quickly), Live Composite, a better rear display and a handy built-in flash.

    You won't go wrong with either but the E-M10 would be my choice.
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  15. alan1972

    alan1972 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Jun 23, 2012
    Malaga, Spain
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    Alan Grant
    You asked about Wifi - I didn't think I would use it much until I tried it, but now I would miss it if it wasn't there. The remote control can be really useful, for example to compose a family photo including myself, rather than running around with the self timer. Or just to avoid moving the camera for long exposures. I also like the file transfer, for example if I am travelling for work and take a photo that would interest my children I can send it to them via my phone. Previously I used to end up taking a photo of same scene with camera and phone.

    Similarly with Live Composite, when I got the E-M10 I didn't even understand what it was but I have found it a lot of fun to use.
  16. dancebert

    dancebert Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 18, 2014
    Hua Hin, Thailand
    For me, 1+ stop better IBIS with the em5. I don't need weather resistance, so for me everything else about the em5 is inferior or equal to the em10. Can't review in EFV. Using buttons by feel convinces me ease of doing that was a low design priority. The ridge between the lens mount and right side of the body is different than the em1 or em10, subtle but enough to make it less effective and less comfortable to use. No WiFi remote control as others mentioned. Have to remove accessory grip to change battery. One place it shines is the vertical format with the accessory grip, for which I have almost no need.

    I bought the em5 because I wanted the O12-40 and the kit price meant I got a second body for about ~$250. Dropped my em10 so started using the em5. It's shortcomings are sufficiently annoying I've thought of buying something else and relegate the em5 to second body status. What's stopping me is the better IBIS because I like shooting in low light.
  17. Johnny The Greek

    Johnny The Greek Mu-43 Regular

    Aug 19, 2015
    E-m10 with the extra grip. I have small hands, like to use the wifi for remote shutter purposes, is ergonomically better, better processor, focus peaking, in body flash, etc. Both are great. But i love my e-m10
  18. BLT

    BLT Mu-43 Regular

    Jan 13, 2013
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    I would want the E-m10 for Focus peaking with MF glass and also the live composite mode for seeing long exposure shots develop on the screen in front of you, and the time-lapse mode too.
  19. JakeNW

    JakeNW New to Mu-43

    Sep 14, 2015
    I chose the E-M5 for the weather sealing, paired with the 12-40 (edit: mainly for dirt, dust, and sand). But my first time out shooting it developed the sticky shutter issue so... maybe I chose poorly.
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  20. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
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    Long before weather sealed cameras came out, I shot in the rain and snow with many cameras with 0 without problem. Just try to keep them the gear as dry as possible and then dry it off as soon as possible. Besides Olympus won't warranty any camera with any water damage!!!! So one way or the other, your at your peril if shooting in less than dry weather.

    The camera sizes are different enough that if you nimbly deal with small items, then the EM-10 won't be an issue. If you fumble or have a hard time grabbing or moving small objects, go for the larger camera.

    Both are excellent cameras.
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