E-M5 mk II & 12-40 PRO or 14-150 LENSES ???

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by Dakota, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. Dakota

    Dakota Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 20, 2016
    Burson, Ca.
    Bill Cook
    Thinking about getting the E-M5 mk II camera with either the 12-40 Pro lens or the 14-150 lens. I know the 12-40 Pro is an excellent lens from all I have read and pictures it has taken. I am also looking at the 14-150 lens to give me more reach than the 12-40 Pro. I was also thinking about a used E-M1. The 12-40 Pro sells for $899.99 at B&H and that is the top of what I want to spend now. I know I can probably get a used 12-40 Pro but it would be just my luck to get a defective one once it is paid for and I receive it I own it regardless of what condition it is. I do not know of anybody that guarantees a used product. I have time to figure this out I am in no hurry. Appreciate any feedback on this camera and the lenses PROS & CONS on each. Thanks Bill
  2. Phocal

    Phocal Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 3, 2014
    B&H as well as KEH have a guarantee on their used lenses. I believe Adorama does also, but I've never bought a used lens from them.
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  3. Dakota

    Dakota Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 20, 2016
    Burson, Ca.
    Bill Cook
    When the time comes I will look into that Thanks Bill
  4. Christop82

    Christop82 Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Sep 10, 2016
    Both are great lenses, but they have different purposes. The 14-150 makes for a great all around travel lens. Sharp and covers all the common focal lengths. Don't expect great low light ability, or very much bokeh in portraits. M.Zuiko ED 14-150mm f4.0-5.6 II (Reconditioned) | Olympus
    $450 from Olympus

    The 12-40 is amazing in the focal lengths it covers. Extremely sharp, fast, decent at low light, weather sealed and has a great manual clutch. If I only had one lens, this is it. Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-40mm f2.8 PRO Weatherproof Wide Zoom Lens | Olympus
    $680 from Olympus

    As far as the camera, all three omd models are pretty stellar. Including the E-M10II, which will save you some money if you're buying new.
  5. runner girl

    runner girl Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    I have both lenses and echo Christop82's comments. I use the 14-150 a lot for my walking around lens but use the other when I really need low light, etc. The 14-150 is much lighter weight, FWIW. I have the EM5 MKII and EM10 MKII. The EM5 has been my fav. However, I recently sent it in for repairs so I'm using the EM10 a lot more for day to day stuff. I'm wondering if I'm not getting better quality output from the EM10. It seems like the RAW files require a lot less post processing... The cost difference between the cameras is almost enough to get both lenses.
  6. wjiang

    wjiang Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    What do you need the reach for? How important is f/2.8, weather resistance and close focus versus single lens convenience?
  7. Holoholo55

    Holoholo55 Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 13, 2014
    Honolulu, HI
    Roberts Camera offers a warranty with used lenses off eBay. I bought a couple of lenses from them and was very satisfied. I believe KEH offers a warranty or return policy on used lenses. And, getolympus.com offers reconditioned lenses with a 90 day warranty that are well worth looking at. The 12-40 is usually available and the 14-150 II is sometimes listed.

    A friend of mine bought a 14-150 II recently and he said he thought it was sharper than the Pana 14-140 (old version). Dunno if that helps. I have the 12-40 and it is superb, but I sometimes wished it had slightly longer range when on travel, then I wouldn't have to switch lenses. The 12-100 would be great, of course, but out of my range for now.
  8. Chris5107

    Chris5107 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jan 28, 2011
    Consider the 12-40 because of its IQ and f2.8. Then add the $99 Oly 40-150 f4.0 for some reach and you have a nice kit.

    I personally prefer the Panasonic 12-35/f2.8 for a bit smaller package. I have also owned the 12-40 and it is a fine lens for sure.
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  9. pondball

    pondball Mu-43 All-Pro

    depends on where you're travelling... three years ago in Europe I toted around a D700 brick with 50/1.8, 24-85 and 70-300 kit lens... for all but 1 or 2 days (at most) I exclusively used the 24-85... and I'd not hesitate to say the Oly 12-40/2.8 is more than it's equal from photos I've seen posted here. A couple of times I missed a longer reach but looking back at my 3000+ photos from that trip apparently I didn't miss the reach that much!

    Having said that my insurance this time around is the Oly 12-100/4 Pro on my em5Mkii. I also got the 7-14/2.8 Pro and yearn for the 25/1.2 Pro but I know I would be more than happy with the 12-100... and if not that one then I'd go with the 12-40/2.8 Pro you're looking at now. When I switched to Oly from Nikon my main goal was to go with quality glass and so far I haven't regretted it.
  10. Dakota

    Dakota Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 20, 2016
    Burson, Ca.
    Bill Cook
    Great info Christop82. Thanks so much I will check out the E-M10II
  11. Dakota

    Dakota Mu-43 Regular

    Sep 20, 2016
    Burson, Ca.
    Bill Cook
    I too have been all over the map with Pentax, Nikon, Canon, and many lenses for all of them over the years. Being ion the USAF for 20 years and flying all over the world I have had my share of heavy cameras and lenses and large camera bags. No more of that. I just sold a nice Canon and a few lenses to get away from weight. The Olympus is the way I will end up going. It will be the M5II or the M10II I see not loosing a lot with the M10II over the M5II. Biggest thing I was looking at the M10II with the 12-40 Pro and the 100-300 Pan lens that should cover a large range of focal length with those two lenses. I hate decisions especially when spending money. Appreciate thoughts on this combo or I may have to go with the M5II with just the 12-40 Pro and get the other lens later because of the price difference I think the faster shutter speed and flash make it almost a better option. Thanks Bill
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2017
  12. retiredfromlife

    retiredfromlife Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    May 15, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    I would get the 12-40 2.8 as my everday lens.
    My Christmas present this year maybe the Panasonic 100-300 as my second travel lens as I would like the extra reach and do not use between 40-100 much.
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  13. AlexMachine

    AlexMachine Mu-43 Regular

    Nov 16, 2016
    +1 for 12-40 f2.8
    Since I got it with EM1 mk1, it has been always on, either On EM1 or backup body EM5.
    40-150 as mentioned is superb fot is's price and quite sharp. 14-150 I can't comment due lack of experience.
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  14. Saledolce

    Saledolce Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 17, 2017
    I'm very happy with EM10ii+14-150.

    I'll pick the 12-40 too, but I'm building my primes kit first. I want to have light easy to carry options in my bag. I keep lusting on the 12-40 but weight is my concern.
  15. Chris5107

    Chris5107 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jan 28, 2011
    If weight is a concern. Also consider the Panasonic 12-32mm pancake zoom + the Oly 40-150 f4 zoom. These two are some of the best bang for their weight.
  16. pondball

    pondball Mu-43 All-Pro

    agree... as mentioned the 12-40/2.8 would be my first choice for walkabout... and... if you're going to get reach then get some reach... stopping at 150, even if it's an upgrade on what you're looking at, to the 40-150/2.8 + 1.4 would still not give you what the Oly 300/4 Pro (I know, expensive) or the Pany 100-300 or Pany 100-400 would give you. Knowing that I was wanting with my 70-300 Nikkor means that I would also have the same yearning feeling with anything in m4/3 that ended with 150mm as it's farthest reach... thus the holdout for either the Pany 100-400 or the Oly 300/4 for me.
    I was told to always get the best glass you can afford and in my case if that means going with the Pro series. The best glass I had in my Nikon ensemble was a Sigma macro 105/2.8... far superior to the 3 Nikon kit lens I had...

    so... my vote for you would be the 12-40/2.8 and be happy with that one, move your feet around, and save up some coin for a tele you will really enjoy using as much as your 12-40/2.8
  17. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    The IQ of the 14-150/II, I found very, very lacking. I had high hopes, but returned it. The 12-40/2.8 is one heck of a lens. Awesome wide open, and I rarely needed to use it beyond f/4 or 5.6. If you want more reach and don't want to spend a lot of money, then invest in an Olympus 40-150/4-5.6R. A little mushy at 150mm, but for around $100 used or on sale....you can't beat it.

    Also, save some money on the 12-40 and buy used from a reputable seller like Adorama, B&H or KEH.
  18. WendyK

    WendyK Super Moderator

    Feb 28, 2014
    Northern Virginia
  19. Saledolce

    Saledolce Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 17, 2017
    Would you recommend the 40-150 over the 14-150 in terms of IQ? I preferred the second (despite the clear overlapping with my 14-42ez) because the IQ seemed to me at least in line with the shorter brother...
  20. TheMenWhoDrawSheeps

    TheMenWhoDrawSheeps Mu-43 Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    Depends on what you are shooting, and conditions, in which you are shooting.
    I really have hard time imagining Situation, where you would need 1/8000 mechanical shutter. F1.4 primes on a sunnY day for bokeh? Hss with strobes in the wild, to dim the ambient light? Freezing Ball hitting the bat on a Baseball match? 5II isn't a Sports camera, it has 13fps, but just as much buffer, to fill few seconds.
    Anything else 1/4000s will do as good, with less noise to deal with.

    Same for faster flash synch speed 1/320 is just about 1/3stop faster than 1/250. Is it really worth investing in expensive oly flashes to get that advantage?

    What you really should look at.
    1St. High res Mode for stills - it's main advantage over the 10II. 64mp raws on tripod, are hard to beat.
    2nd build quality, weather sealing. - Do you really need a heavy duty camera? Weather sealing, might be usefull once in a while, but for most users it's just a Feature. The sturdiness is another thing to consider - less plastic, more full metal parts.
    3rd handling comfort - more buttons, better button layout, bigger and much better evf, additional grip and batteries, small adorable flash with rotating head.

    I made an experience that Professional gear nowadays is more about handling comfort, Features, which ease your comfort and complement your shooting style, than "IQ" skyhigh iso or that xxl fast shutter.

    And the lens - 12-40, no doubt.)
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