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E-M1II successor

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by mcasan, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Once was enough for me. I learned my lesson from the E-M1 II (and the 18 month wait for Olympus to release FW 2.0).
     
  2. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Legend

    Mar 21, 2014
    The absolute biggest conceivable gains you'll get from a BSI sensor are somewhere between 0.25 to 0.33 EV, based on historical examples. That's nowhere near enough to bridge the 1.94 EV physical size gap between M4/3 and FF. It's not even enough to bridge the 0.56-0.71 EV physical size gap between M4/3 and APS-C.

    BSI has become a buzzword, but it's not a revolutionary technology. It's a modest, incremental evolution that offers improvements for cameras with very small pixel pitches (i.e. it has primarily been a performance driver for tiny cellphone sensors, has been somewhat useful for 20MP 1" sensors, and so would be okay for a ~40MP M4/3 camera).

    There are a few avenues to dramatic fundamental gains in image quality, but they're going to revolve around an entire different sensor technology (perhaps the mythologized Panasonic-Fuji organic sensor) or computational photography that leverages ultra-fast readout speeds and data rates to stack and combine image data in a smart way. A stacked-BSI architecture might be one way to help achieve that latter goal, but the current E-M1 II has one of the fastest sensor readout architectures on the market, and is a conventional FSI sensor with no on-sensor DRAM (to our understanding)...
     
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  3. Quadna71

    Quadna71 Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    May 25, 2016
    So basically....... (yeah, I didn't get most of that) :biggrin:

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  4. pake

    pake Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Oct 14, 2010
    Finland
    Teemu
    Forget about BSI... Organic sensor is getting closer: This is the first "real world" image of the new Panasonic 8k camcorder with Panasonic-Fuji organic sensor! - 43 Rumors
     
  5. RR Jonny

    RR Jonny Mu-43 Veteran

    And from the comments section of this piece regarding the EM1X (Just a comment - I don't know if the source is reliable or not):

    it's getting a new sensor, supposedly designed by Olympus' medical imaging division, which is not organic, but supposedly has very improved low light characteristics.

    3K would be for the bespoke sensor, all the processing power AI focus stuff and the hand held high resolution solution. There may be more as I doubt we have the full picture yet.
     
  6. barry13

    barry13 Mu-43.com Editor Subscribing Member

    Mar 7, 2014
    Southern California
    Barry
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  7. swifty

    swifty Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 30, 2013
    Singapore
    Dave
    So these popped up in my FB feed:

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  8. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Interesting. Looks like a mash-up between the E-M1 II, G9, and, and D5.
     
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  9. Turbofrog

    Turbofrog Mu-43 Legend

    Mar 21, 2014
    What do we think LOCK and C-LOCK refer to on that three position switch on the back near the bottom?
     
  10. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Lock simply locks the buttons/rear dial pad/AF joy-stick so that you don't inadvertently bump something, change a setting, etc.

    I'm not 100% certain on "C-lock", but my guess would be that it de-activates the portrait controls (My D500 grip has a separate lock for the portrait grip controls, and then for the regular controls).
     
  11. TomasT

    TomasT Mu-43 Regular Subscribing Member

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    Oct 8, 2016
    Nederlands,Rotterdam
    Tomas Titak
    Certainly locked
     
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  12. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team Subscribing Member

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    Completely Locked - at least there's a button for it now, as opposed to random firmware failures with earlier models.
     
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  13. m43happy

    m43happy Mu-43 Top Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Feb 18, 2012
    That main grip (not battery) looks chunky. Also, that's a lot of dead space at the top of the camera, where some of the buttons on the back used to be. It doesn't look like a tiny screen has been put there either (like the X-H1, EOS-R, Z-6/7). That actually looks disappointing. Hopefully the image quality is better.
     
  14. hoodlum

    hoodlum Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 16, 2012
    Toronto Canada
    Since we are all guessing I would say Card Lock since there is a Card button close by.
     
  15. hoodlum

    hoodlum Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 16, 2012
    Toronto Canada
    There looks to be a piece of plex-glass covering something at the top right from the back view. By guess is that Olympus is hiding something here.
     
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  16. Lupin 3rd

    Lupin 3rd Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Aug 13, 2018
    MoCo, MD
    The focus joystick looks interesting.
     
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  17. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    Upon viewing the images at 100%, does anybody else think these are fake/photoshopped?
     
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  18. Lupin 3rd

    Lupin 3rd Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Aug 13, 2018
    MoCo, MD
    Does it matter? Wouldn't we be more productive just randomly spinning our chairs?
     
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  19. hoodlum

    hoodlum Mu-43 Veteran

    348
    Jul 16, 2012
    Toronto Canada
    My kids would vote for spinning our chairs. :biggrin:
     
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  20. What a nice piece of gear. Not too big at all by the looks of the last pic. I use my E-M1 with grip and so will be used to that form factor. The button configurations look well placed. I’m really looking forward to holding this baby.

    When I want small, I turn to the camera bodies I use most on a daily basis - my E-M10 or E-PL’s. I love the fact that Olympus has such a diverse lineup of small compact cameras right through to large pro cameras - that all have the same sensor size and thus all use the same completely broad range of extremely small to modestly large lenses in all speeds and configurations and price points. Can’t find that with Sony, Nikon or Canon!

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