DxO Optics Pro 9.5 and Lightroom

YantaYo

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Just noticed the plugin for Lightroom. Downloading the trial to see how it works.

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I would love to hear how you guys are liking this new feature in DxO. I'm still not over the moon with LR 5.5 and how it renders color and detail with my E-M1 files, although the Oly color profiles are a vast improvement over the "Adobe Standard" profile of before.

I'm just not convinced my images are not as sharp as LR renders them. I do shoot with quality optics (12-40, 60 macro, 75 1.8). I see an improved difference in OV3 but just don't like the OV3 interface and it's lack of speed.
 
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I just finished the trial of DxO Optics Pro 9 (is it 9.5 or 9... I thought latest was 9) and was using it with LR5.5.

My two cents, I liked it. It did offer a slight improvement in rendering of RAW files over LR but it was just slightly. I felt that running my RAW from GH3 through Optics Pro and back to LR5.5 as DNG gave me a slight better base to work from for images. As for the noise etc., maybe it marginally renders it better than LR but again it is just a slight difference I felt and nothing dramatic.

I noticed a great difference in distortion correction and image scale between LR and Optics Pro. It did also seem that the default settings (no adjustments in Optics Pro) gave me a bit more sharpness and slightly better noise rendering than LR alone.

I also feel it is probably possible to accomplish most what Optics Pro does in LR alone but I think it would take a bit more tweaking per image. So is it worth the price? I am considering getting the $99 standard version just to convert more important RAW shots but honestly, I could go without and continue using just LR and probably never be concerned. I don't think it is a must have type of thing but can be helpful.
 

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Dean, which trial version did you use? Elite? I see with the E-M1, the Elite version is the only one I can use if I want my camera and lens profiles. I'll give it a try too to see if it is worth the asking price of $199.
 
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Dean, which trial version did you use? Elite? I see with the E-M1, the Elite version is the only one I can use if I want my camera and lens profiles. I'll give it a try too to see if it is worth the asking price of $199.
I believe I was probably using the Elite edition that they offered free for 30 days. I see the standard version supports my GH3 though. I also just seen that B&Hphoto is offering the standard edition for $69 and Elite for $149. That might seal the deal for me on the standard edition.
 

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Thanks again! I'll download the trial version tonight and see how it goes. I'm hoping it helps more than LR 5.5 has. I just can't imagine the files to be as noisy and soft from an E-M5 or E-M1 with the 12-40 2.8 as they are.
 

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Make sure you watch a few of the basic DxO tutorials explaining what various tabs do. The sharpening tools work really well for profiles lenses (the lens sharpness tab, don't use the unsharp mask unless you don't have a profile, IMO). I've been using it for years, and really like it. I pull back a little on the default settings (less NR, little more neutral most of the time)
 

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I also just seen that B&H photo is offering the standard edition for $69 and Elite for $149.
I might pick it up for that price ($69). It is on back order though. Thanks for the info.
 

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I've been using DxO the last several days and I am not a fan. I hate that the preview does not show the adjustment until it's zoomed in at 75%, unless I'm doing something wrong. I also find it a bit clunky and slow. I will give it one big kudos - the lens correction feature is phenomenal!! But I'll stick with Lightroom for now and have a look into the Huelight profiles.
 

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The preview does show some things zoomed out (not sharpening and noise reduction and such, but you can't really evaluate that zoomed out); I agree it's not as slick as Lightroom and it's a bit slow, but the results make it worth it for me. Plus it integrates just fine now.
 

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The preview does show some things zoomed out (not sharpening and noise reduction and such, but you can't really evaluate that zoomed out); I agree it's not as slick as Lightroom and it's a bit slow, but the results make it worth it for me. Plus it integrates just fine now.
Hi Mattia,

What is your work flow? Do you process the raw files in DxO and then export to Lightroom?
 

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Honestly I don't make full use of LR yet, because I process almost everything in DxO, and move the Lightroom of I want other adjustments. The most recent version of DxOnoncludes a plugin to export and import tiffs back. I will probably start using Lightroom more because the catalogue is getting hard manage without proper DAM.
 

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I am not sure what is happening when you export a image from DxO to Lightroom as a DNG file. When I do a black/white export as DNG the adjustment shows in Lightroom in the DNG file. However, when I export from DxO a color image to Lightroom it just looks like the original image in Lightroom. The color tiff exported from DxO to Lightroom maintains the corrections applied in DxO. What is the point exporting as DNG if corrections are not maintained?
 

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I am not sure what is happening when you export a image from DxO to Lightroom as a DNG file. When I do a black/white export as DNG the adjustment shows in Lightroom in the DNG file. However, when I export from DxO a color image to Lightroom it just looks like the original image in Lightroom. The color tiff exported from DxO to Lightroom maintains the corrections applied in DxO. What is the point exporting as DNG if corrections are not maintained?
The DxO Lightroom Plugin tutorial explains color might not be exactly maintained in a DNG. Not sure I want to export 1000's of photos as tiffs.

Note

If you choose to export your image in DNG format, you will probably perceive a difference between how it is in DxO Optics Pro vs. Lightroom. Also:

If you want to work on light and color in DxO Optics Pro, we recommend that you export your image in TIFF format so as to avoid any surprises in the rendering.
If you prefer doing light and color work in Adobe Lightroom and want to use DxO Optics Pro only for corrections tied to details and geometry, the DNG format will allow you greater flexibility.
 

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For M43 you have to use the Elite version at $299. That is more than I paid for LR. I did the trial and just did not see any major benefit to the compared to what I already do in LR and my plugins (Nik, and Perfect Photo).
 

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For M43 you have to use the Elite version at $299. That is more than I paid for LR. I did the trial and just did not see any major benefit to the compared to what I already do in LR and my plugins (Nik, and Perfect Photo).
I am showing the recommended software for my Oly EM-5 is the standard edition and not the elite. Right now the standard edition is $69 at B & H.

The processing of the Oly RAW files in DxO is very close/exceeds the Olympus software. In some cases DxO handles noise better. Just straight out of the box conversion DxO is better to me than Lightroom. I just cannot get Lightroom to handle noise as well as DxO.
 

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I have been Lightroom-based for some years, since LR3 actually. Last month I bought DxO Optics for use on selected images, not every one. It fits seamlessly into my workflow, from LR to DxO, then export to LR as DNG or JPEG on 100 Quality, as per needs.

I think the colour is definitely better.

The Auto tone correction in LR is terrible, and DxO is miles better. (When I try Auto tone in LR, I usually have to Undo it and start again).

The Prime noise reduction of DxO is the main reason I bought it, and I do prefer it strongly, even though it is incredibly slow.
 

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I have been Lightroom-based for some years, since LR3 actually. Last month I bought DxO Optics for use on selected images, not every one. It fits seamlessly into my workflow, from LR to DxO, then export to LR as DNG or JPEG on 100 Quality, as per needs.

I think the colour is definitely better.

The Auto tone correction in LR is terrible, and DxO is miles better. (When I try Auto tone in LR, I usually have to Undo it and start again).

The Prime noise reduction of DxO is the main reason I bought it, and I do prefer it strongly, even though it is incredibly slow.
What type of DxO edits do you find export well as DNG? The color edit do not export well.
 

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