Do I need to get an EP-2 and EVF to focus properly with MF lenses

Discussion in 'Olympus Cameras' started by BillN, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    My shots are "very hit and miss" focus wise with my EP-1 and MF glass - better with the G1 but not much - especially when "wide open"
    The LCD screen and the two button magnification is not great - if fact I find it terrible

    Never looked at the EP-2 and EVF as I am really happy with the EP 1 image wise - the shooting menu is however crap, (excuse the French)

    Do I need to get an EP-2 and EVF to focus properly with MF lenses

    I realise how good the D300 is when I go back to it
     
  2. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Bill,
    The Pen 2 with the finder is very nice. To be clear....
    I never need to use the magnifier with any lens at any distance.
    It's better than any finder I ever used.
    I just wish it had a split image like the old A screen for the Nikon F's. It's real bright tho'.
     
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  3. hmpws

    hmpws Mu-43 Regular

    177
    Apr 24, 2010
    Auckland, New Zealand
    This may just tip me over to getting a E-PL1 or E-P2 with VF... but I will have to sell my GF1 first...
     
  4. bilzmale

    bilzmale Mu-43 All-Pro

    Don't think I'd like focussing using the LCD but a new camera is a big call. I like the integrated VF in the G1 but he E-P2 + VF2 is nice as well. My OM adapter turns up next week hopefully - then I can make a more informed comment.
     
  5. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    Don

    I could use an old rangefinder - measure the distance and set it accurately

    naw that wouldn't work as I need to frame the image thru the LCD - at a distance from my head

    I'm OK on a tripod - but hand held, close up, wide open - it's really frustrating

    time for a cuppa, (tea to you lot over there!) - and a chocolate biscuit, of course - maybe two
     
  6. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    Bill

    I've got adapters for my old Nikkor, FD, VC, Pentax and Leica glass - SLR and RF stuff - plus recently acquired some Konica MF stuff

    they all frustrate me wide open with the EP-1 - better with the G1 - but only just

    Long for split screen or some kind of focus confirm - anything is better that what there is a the present time on the EP-1

    Cheers
     
  7. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    I love the Pen1, it's still my favorite. I sold the G1 because I have old eyes.
    Then along came a deal on the Pen2. For MF lenses, there is nothing better.
    I use the Konica 57 1.4 wide open and never miss.
    That's a testament for the finder.
     
  8. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus Charter Member

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  9. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    To be honost, I really love my Pen1. I am hesitant to depend on the Pen2 because it would replace the 1 easilly. So I don't challenge myself to often but when I do the 2 really stands out.
    It's usually the garden that creates the problem. The 57 1.4 turns me on too much.
    Even wide open...clear in/out focus. Then if I stop down to say...
    8-11 or 16.... Eureka...I can see.
    Actually I see better with the finder then with my glasses.
    These ole' eyes just lovin' that finder....
     
  10. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    There is no way the EVF will work on the EP-1 is there?
     
  11. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus Charter Member

    Nope.

    Well, you might find an electrical engineer or someone to do it for you, but barring that, no.
     
  12. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Bill, the E-PL1 has a slightly improved user interface and better grip for legacy lens shooting... the one touch magnifier button simplifies things, maybe worth considering as a backup for your E-P1?

    Cheers

    Brian
     
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  13. BillN

    BillN Mu-43 All-Pro Charter Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    SW France
    So I need to buy an EP-2 which has the EVF included in the price, OR

    an EPL-1 PLUS an EVF

    do I
     
  14. BBW

    BBW Super Moderator Emeritus Charter Member

    I would say so, yes. But that's my eyes talkin'.
     
  15. nokiamia

    nokiamia Mu-43 Regular

    102
    May 20, 2010
    Malaysia
    I've been using my EP2 with Zuiko 17 and Pana 20, and the only time I used the EVF is when its too bright to see the LV.

    Now that I've started using my old Nikkor lenses on the EP2, I feel that EVF is a big neccessity. Sometimes I even wish For an integrated EVF instead of removable.
     
  16. john1027

    john1027 Mu-43 Veteran

    305
    Mar 5, 2010
    Alexandria, VA USA
    Bill,

    I picked up a used E-P2 recently and when I was checking to see if it was a fair price, I noticed that there are several major online retailers, as well as eBay vendors, who are offering various packages both with the EVF and without. I noticed on Amazon when I searched that they had a package without the EVF for 899.00 and then just two clicks down the page, one without the EVF at the same price. If you go that route, just make sure what is included.
     
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  17. Brian S

    Brian S Mu-43 Top Veteran Charter Member

    714
    Apr 11, 2009
    Yes, I find the EVF is the way to really focus a lens accurately. I like wide-open shots at F1.5 and F2. I can do that easily with my rangefinders. I can also do it with the EP2.
     
  18. hmpws

    hmpws Mu-43 Regular

    177
    Apr 24, 2010
    Auckland, New Zealand
    And I found that I couldn't do it on my GF1 LCD with my 57mm f1.4 last night :(. I wish they have trial use here in NZ...
     
  19. Brian S

    Brian S Mu-43 Top Veteran Charter Member

    714
    Apr 11, 2009
    I have not uploaded anything faster than F2 yet, but will be.

    This is a 50mm Summicron at F2:

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    I have a C-Mount to u4/3rds adapter coming in soon, and have a C-Mount adapter for my Canon 50mm F0.95. It will cover the full sensor. I will be posting some shots. I also have a Kowa 12.5mm F1.4 made for a 1" vidicon- it should cover most of the sensor.

    I have used my Nikon 55mm F1.2 with the EP2. No problems.
     
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  20. stanleyk

    stanleyk Guest

    99
    May 26, 2010
    I've had the E-P2 for about three weeks. It's an absolute joy to manual focus. I got the Novoflex K mount adapter and the old Pentax lenses work great on it. I think this adapter costs more, but it's dead on with the metering.

    Actually I find the E-P2 easier to manually focus than the KX and as easy as the K7. I was rarely using my old Pentax lenses until I got it.

    I'm really surprised more DSLR users haven't switched. I haven't taken my K7 or KX off the shelf since I got the E-P2.