Do I Need the 17mm 1.8 or is it just GAS?

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by aukirk, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. aukirk

    aukirk Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    Ever since trading my silver 45 and 75s for black versions, I have been thinking about picking up the 17mm 1.8 in black when it comes out. For much of the past year the Pany 25m has been my most used "normal" lens... however, for unknown reasons I am starting to feel this burning desire to have a 35mm equivalent as the normal and that Oly 17m 1.8 looks slick and is slightly smaller. Of course, I already have an old Pany 20m that never gets used, which has the smaller form-factor and wider field, so I am questioning why I am drawn to the 17m.

    Anyone have any words of advice?
     
  2. elavon

    elavon Mu-43 All-Pro

    Sep 1, 2012
    Tel Aviv Israel
    Ehud
    If you do not use the 20mm which is a great lens you are probably having GAS. If you must get a lens I would recommend that you go to the UWA such as the P7-17, O9-18 or the fishy R7.5. All those lens will open a new dimension for you that is not supported by your current gear.
     
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  3. gollum14

    gollum14 Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 13, 2013
    UK
    Martin Davey
    I guess my answer to that would be it depends on what you are going to use it for, you already have a 20mm is 3mm really gonna make that much difference :wink:
     
  4. krugorg

    krugorg Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jul 18, 2011
    Minnesota USA
    Why don't you use the Panasonic 20mm? If it is mostly due to AF speed on an Olympus body, maybe the new Olympus 17mm would make sense. Otherwise, I find 20mm to be a close enough to 35mm most of the time, and the P20 is pretty great, especially with sharpness (even wide open in the center).
     
  5. yekimrd

    yekimrd Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 14, 2012
    Cincinnati, OH
    Mikey
    I think the reason why you don't use the 20/1.7 is because it's too close to the 25mm in FOV. The 17 would be different enough and would also make for a great street lens. Plus the AF is very noticeably faster on the 17/1.8. nust don't hang onto both the 17 and 20 -- sell the 20 to help finance the 17.
     
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  6. alex66

    alex66 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2010
    With other cameras I quite like having the choice of 35/50 (35mm) or 24/35 (Aps) so I could see having 17/25 in 43 being quite good. 20mm is just too close to either 25 or 17mm that it is a good compromise over having both but not quite the same as having both. If you love the 25mm I say sell the 20mm and get the 17mm, have the best of both.
     
  7. rnagoda

    rnagoda Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jun 12, 2012
    Tucson, AZ
    Robert
    You definitely don't "need" it, but - yeah - it seems like it would fit well with your 25mm. Like the previous poster, I'm a fan of having the standard options available, like 24, 35 and 50mm. I really liked my 20mm f/1.7 but if I'd've had the 25mm I, like you, would likely never have used it.

    So, yeah, agreed - sell the 20 and nab a 17mm.
     
  8. aukirk

    aukirk Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    I think AF speed is a part of the reason I don't use the 20 that often, plus it is almost a bit too small on the EM5. However, I am going to give it another try this weekend. I think a 17-25-45-75 kit makes more sense. The only problem is that I imagine that will lead to me feeling the "need" to drop the 14 on the wide end and start GAS for the 12.
     
  9. madmaxmedia

    madmaxmedia Mu-43 Veteran

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    Feb 20, 2010
    I think you need some TUMS, not that new lens. ;)

    Shoot the 20 for a bit and then decide if you really want a 17. Just saw your last post- yeah the 20 is a little slow AF. Do you shoot the 14 a lot?
     
  10. Dduval

    Dduval Mu-43 Regular

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    Aug 13, 2013
    Orlando, FL
    Get the 12mm 2.0...Besides, some folks complain about the sharpness of the 17mm...

    No wait, get both and return the one you don't like...? Never mind, don't listen to me, I'm just dreaming I could afford any of these lens... :cloud-9-039:
     
  11. Pecos

    Pecos Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 20, 2013
    The Natural State
    Sounds like GAS to me.
    But, hey, that's okay!
     
  12. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

    May 4, 2011
    Texas
    I got it because I'm in a never ending quest for more light :smile:
     
  13. dougjgreen

    dougjgreen Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 5, 2013
    San Diego
    Doug Green
    If I was you, I'd sell the 20mm and get the 14mm - and you'll still have around $100 left over.

    Personally, I found that the 14mm and the 20mm were a little too close together for me to use both a lot. I expect you'd find the same issue with the 25mm and the 17mm (you're already having it with the 25mm and the 20mm).
     
  14. aukirk

    aukirk Mu-43 Regular

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    Sep 9, 2012
    I have the 14 and do shoot it quite a bit... I just never fell in love with the 20m, but will carry it this weekend since I am going to the Ravens game and can't take a bag, so I will put the 75m on the camera, and the 14 and 20 in each pocket. (Maybe the 45 as well)
     
  15. Clint

    Clint Mu-43 All-Pro

    Apr 22, 2013
    San Diego area, CA
    Clint
    Obviously a case of LAS - a genus of GAS.

    For the cure
    sell the 14mm & 20mm,
    buy the 7-14mm, 12mm, 17mm, and 150mm f/2 along with an E-M1
    :drinks:
     
  16. edwardconde

    edwardconde Mu-43 All-Pro

    Nov 8, 2012
    Los Angeles, CA
    Sell everything up to the 45mm and then buy the 12 - 40 f2.8 lens that is coming out shortly... All your wide desires will be answered but you will be in the poor house!
     
  17. dav1dz

    dav1dz Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Nov 6, 2012
    Canada
    I've been on the road in the EU for the last month or so. Brought my entire kit with me minus the 45/1.8.

    Honestly? 17 & 45 1.8 are all I would need on my next trip for cheap. Or I would opt for 12-40 and 17/1.8 if I manage to recoup reasonable money spent on the rest of my lenses.
     
  18. demiro

    demiro Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Nov 7, 2010
    I'm not saying the OP should buy anything, but those complaints about the 17 being a little soft kept me away from it for a while. That was a mistake.

    Maybe I just got lucky, but I have happily replaced my 25/1.4 with the 17/1.8. The FL works better for me, so that's a big part of it, but I was concerned I'd miss the IQ with the 25. Not the case.
     
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  19. bigboysdad

    bigboysdad Mu-43 All-Pro

    Aug 25, 2013
    Sydney/ London
    I bought the 17/1.8

    I bought it on the basis of 80% wanting a 35mm frame and 20% GAS. Yep, it's a better gadget than the 20 in that it has faster AF and that ring which (sort of and if you're being very generous) gives you a rangefinder option but if sharpness and general quality of the picture is your criteria, then you won't be able to escape the fact that the 20 is just better. If I had properly tried the 17/1.8 beforehand I wouldn't have purchased it. The superiority of the 25/1.4 against the 17 I could only imagine, you'll probably find yourself not wanting to use the 17.

    Do keep that 14mm though - lovely bit of glass, in so far as the way it renders shades of sun and handles sun flare which in my experience is better than the 20. I like to try and shoot using all of the frame in my pictures and in that context, it really is different to the 20 imho.
     
  20. gugarci

    gugarci Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jul 8, 2012
    Lyndhurst, NJ
    Bill
    It's GAS although the AF performance is better on the 17mm compared to your Panasonic 20mm. If you require better AF performance buy it. Otherwise it's a waste of money.