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Did Adobe send you a Scary Letter yet?

Discussion in 'Image Processing' started by ralf-11, May 14, 2019.

  1. Ranger Rick

    Ranger Rick Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

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    Apr 11, 2009
    Tempe, AZ
    Rick
    They certainly have a way about them, don't they? Hard to think of a more inept organization. Every time they attempt to "communicate" with the customer, they screw it up.

    Thankfully :)  they have changed the names of the Lightroom apps yet again today. And the yesterday-current version of LR Classic CC's icon wouldn't launch the newly-renamed app: you have to drag the new icon into the dock and delete the Classic CC one. I figured that out when I tried to launch from the old icon and was notified that couldn't launch.
     
  2. CWRailman

    CWRailman Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Jun 2, 2015
    Scottsdale, Arizona
    Denny
    I think Adobe users should get one of those ambulance chaser lawyer firms that advertises on TV to initiate their own class action lawsuit and sue the pants off Adobe for not disclosing this possibility at the time of sale. Sort of like the people who purchase some prescription medicine that is later found to be defective in some manner. I can just see the TV add now. "If you or some member of your family has subscribed to Adobe products you too may be entitled to substantial financial compensation." Purchase of any subscription is no guarantee that the purchaser will stop using the existing version when future versions become available. Another reason I do not go with subscription software.
     
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  3. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
    Hmmmm. Pretty happy I stuck with my bought and paid for Lightroom 6. I wonder how they'll find a way to sabotage that?
     
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  4. mcasan

    mcasan Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 26, 2014
    Atlanta
    Glad I am testing Photo Mechanic 6 DAM beta with Luminar Flex. Always have Plan B waiting in the wings. You never know.
     
  5. D7k1

    D7k1 Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 18, 2013
    Happens in other software all the time. Vegas PRO ships with plugins that only run on the version it ships with. Yes, I have a copy of On1 as a fail safe but you should always have a backup.
     
  6. Jeffcs

    Jeffcs Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 20, 2017
    Toms River NJ
    Gezzeezs i kept and continue to use PS6 alongside PSCC hope adobe can’t figure out how to mess with my purchased PS6
     
  7. Hendrik

    Hendrik Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Feb 27, 2015
    Wayland MA
    Hendrik
    I'm having a hard time understanding why, having paid for the subscription, one would not keep the installation up to date, thus avoiding this particular problem altogether. This seems to me like an edge case about which most of us have little to worry.
     
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  8. Brownie

    Brownie Mu-43 Top Veteran

    640
    Sep 3, 2018
    SE Michigan
    Just say no.
     
  9. Matt Drown

    Matt Drown Mu-43 Veteran

    274
    Dec 9, 2015
    California, USA
  10. speedy

    speedy Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 27, 2015
  11. pake

    pake Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Oct 14, 2010
    Finland
    Teemu
    Well... Are you using Adobe products? If you are, you should be very aware by now that their latest versions are full of bugs. As a PAYING customer I'm not willing to be a beta tester for their incomplete software so I always stay behind a version (or two). Which reminds me I should make a snapshot of my Windows drive next weekend and try to update my Photoshop. Last time I had to revert back and haven't tried updating again since December(?).
     
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  12. betamax

    betamax Mu-43 Veteran Subscribing Member

    431
    May 7, 2011
    Illawarra, NSW, Australia
    Alan
    So I take it they have legal issues with certain versions after 6, but not with 6 or earlier?
     
  13. WT21

    WT21 Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Man, it feels like their strategic business plan includes circling the drain, and they are doing everything they can to get there.
     
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  14. Ross the fiddler

    Ross the fiddler Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    I'm pretty happy I didn't go with any of their products & use Capture One instead. ;) 
     
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  15. Wisertime

    Wisertime Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 6, 2013
    Philly
    Steve
    Wow, "we will no longer pay to license elements of our software and are being sued by third parties, therefore you will be required to update adobe software and we now will charge you double for that privilege" So sorry. What a clusterF*ck.

    Adobe should go to a model more like Davinci resolve. Give the basic software for free and offer premium levels of software (or service...which I hate, but that's what they would do). Let amateurs try and learn the complicated software and chose to pay for more advanced features.
     
  16. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    You've seen their quarterly and annual business results, right?

    They're nowhere near circling the drain...
     
  17. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    This is just one of the many reasons why I gave Adobe the big middle finger when they announced the end of the perpetual license structure. I still have and use LR6 for panoramic stitching and HDR merging, but for everything else I'm using DXO PL2 and Exposure X4.
     
  18. WT21

    WT21 Super Moderator Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    Yes, succeeding in spite of themselves.

    Not that they are circling the drain, but they seem to have it in their business plan, and are trying hard to get there.
     
  19. ijm5012

    ijm5012 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ian
    To the general consumer, their business model sucks. That's why I voted with my dollar, and decided to stop purchasing Adobe products when they went subscription-only (I'll still use LR6 for the occasional task here or there, mainly Pano-stitching or HDR-merging).

    The "problem" is that there are so many people out there with these gigantic catalogs of images that've set their workflow up around Adobe products (LR, PS, Bridge, AE, Premier, etc.), that they feel they can't move away those products. From a business perspective, Adobe is simply exploiting the perceived high switching costs that many users believe to exist, thus keeping them within the Adobe ecosystem.

    For Adobe, it's great. They have a captured user-base that feels as if they can't leave the existing eco-system, and Adobe gets a guaranteed revenue stream from them. It's a great business model, which is why Adobe is doing so well. Sure, they pissed of the vocal minority when they made the switch, but the financial don't lie: The business model is working very, very well for them.
     
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