Countdown to G2 and G10 has started

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by Herman, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Acc to rumor these pans will be announced soon.
    Being in need of new gear I do look forward to the new pan cameras.:smile:

    Have a nice day.
    Kind regards, Herman
     
  2. F1L1P

    F1L1P Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Jan 2, 2010
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    G2 pics and specs:

    http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...Partner=7000000000000005702&surfModel=DMC-G2K

    G2 with new lens
    [​IMG]

    DMC-G2K

    12.1 Megapixel Interchangeable Lens System Camera
    •Touch 3.0-Inch Free Angle LCD
    Intuitive operation such as AF/Shutter/Playback by touching the screen
    •One-touch AVCHD Lite Movie Recoding
    Records using AVCHD Lite to capture HD, 1280 x 720, 60p movies with movie button
    •1.44mil-dot equivalent Super High Resolution
    Live View Finder with eye sensor
    Shoot the exact image the camera sees without switching the setting of the display
    .
     
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  3. F1L1P

    F1L1P Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    and pics of G10:

    [​IMG]

    new lens 14-42?

    [​IMG]

    LCD is fixed :(

    [​IMG]

    true or hoax, it seems they've decided to strip down G1 and GH1 models

    P.S. maybe this deserves a separate thread...
     
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  4. F1L1P

    F1L1P Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    and bump with comparison of GF1, G10, G2 and GH1 :
    http://tinyurl.com/y95q63b

    [​IMG]

    touch shutter, ISO 6400, only 202,000 dots LVF on G10 (1,440,000 dots on G1), LVF magnification down from 1.4x (G1) to 1.04x...enjoy in specs. for now, one word: disappointment
     
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  5. hanzo

    hanzo Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    NOOOOOOO !!! :eek:

     
  6. Ranger 9

    Ranger 9 Mu-43 Regular Charter Member

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    Apr 20, 2009
    Doesn't seem that way to me... G2 looks like G1 with addition of 720P, 6400 top ISO, and touch screen (big woop that).

    G10 is lower spec'ed, but that makes sense as they need an entry-level model to compete with the Olympus EPL1. I wonder if that's also the motivation for shaving the 14-45 lens down to 14-42; the EPL1 seems like a very appealing package at its $600-with-lens street price, so Pana would have some serious cutting to do to get near that.

    Seen this way, it seems like a very logical product mix:

    GH1 remains the top model, for people who want 1080 video; GF1 fills the "premium compact" segment. (I wonder if it might be joined by a lower-cost "GF10" eventually...?) The G2 covers people who want a less-video-centric high-end camera, and the G10 is the budget choice.

    If the new top 6400 ISO implies improved noise performance at 1600 and 3200, I'll be taking a very close look at the G2; that's really my only major gripe with the G1.

    My key disappointment so far: Pana does not seem to have followed Olympus' lead and built wireless flash control into the body. I had hoped that the fact that Oly debuted this feature on their "entry-level" EPL1 would force it to become a standard feature.
     
  7. Herman

    Herman Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2010
    The Netherlands
    Hey guys thanks for the replies. I sit back and wait for an official announcement from Pan. Any ideas about prices? (suggested retail prices)

    Comments are welcome, thanks.

    Have a nice day.
    kind regards, Herman
     
  8. texascbx

    texascbx Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Dec 30, 2009
    Texas
    I'm underwhelmed. I will be keeping my G1.
     
  9. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Let's keep this thread as is. It's based on speculation.
    When the cameras are released we'll make separate threads.
    Shooter
     
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  10. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 23, 2010
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    I'm underwhelmed as well. Touch screen just doesn't do anything for me. Just more grease spots on the LCD screen.
     
  11. Brian Mosley

    Brian Mosley Administrator Emeritus Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Welcome to the iPod generation :rolleyes:

    I won't dismiss it until I've tried it.

    Cheers

    Brian
     
  12. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Now that's a firmware upgrade...
    An Ipod to the Pen1....
    That's a rockin' upgrade!
     
  13. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

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    LOL! For the record, I've only purchased one iPod all my life, and I'm still using it today! :wink:
     
  14. oris642

    oris642 Mu-43 Regular

    Have you actually used one? I did a couple of years ago, when I had a Panasonic FX-500 with a 3" touchscreen (it was Panny's first touch screen on a camera). It was actually better than I thought it was going to be. But it does leave fingerprints.

    Having said that, I prefer the touch screen on my iPhone and having to clean it regularly, than no iPhone touchscreen at all. So I guess we have to see how it really is in practice.
     
  15. Boyzo

    Boyzo Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Underwhelmed is the word..

    and I am in agreement with most here and as a G1 user (very satisfied) the G2 offers nothing to me.

    To a new buyer you get movie and a few things so its a great 1st off buy for a new m43 user.

    The G1 (and G2) sahre the same body and controls and allow very quick access to a few settings it handles well as a body etc.

    However as a new E-P2 user I am thinking (what was all the Oly posters admiration for the Pen) its not till you use one you realize how attaching it is.

    It has IBIS, retro look, competent LCD, a good feel in handling .. you get Movie
    the Fab. EVF a nice Kit zoom and GREAT jpegs, controls that are recessed avoiding inadvertent resetting.

    Without the EVF its so compact and mates with the Pany 20/1.7 like a dream

    To entice me with the G2 it needs improved body ergo alt to the rubber finish and better noise performance from the Sensor.
     
  16. Armanius

    Armanius Mu-43 All-Pro

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    I'd love to see a GH1 with IBIS. But I don't think Pany will ever go that direction with IS.
     
  17. Ranger 9

    Ranger 9 Mu-43 Regular Charter Member

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    Although I noted on the description page (before Pana pulled it) that the supplied accessories include a stylus. So I guess you don't have to touch it. (Although I'll bet those stylii will be an early nominee for Most Frequently Lost Photo Accessory of 2010...)
     
  18. texascbx

    texascbx Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Dec 30, 2009
    Texas
    We need touchscreens, GPS and a web browser in our cameras now. And Facebook.

    The funny part or unfunny part is we will probably have all this soon enough anyway.
     
  19. chalkdust

    chalkdust Mu-43 Regular Charter Member

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    Dec 29, 2009
    McKinney, Texas
    I prefer easily accessed controls, like dials, and switches, over hard to navigate menus. I have never used a touch screen on a camera before, but I can imagine a touch screen design that makes the many digital options easy to find and use.
     
  20. Razer

    Razer Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 1, 2010
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    I personally think the touchscreen could have a few advantages, mainly for when you want to set selective focus.

    You could also set any iso & aperture with just 2 presses quickly, without having to use the dial or buttons.

    Tbh i never expected the G2 to offer all that much more over the G1, otherwise they would kill sales of the GH1, which hasn't been out all that long.

    Some people are moaning & were expecting the G2 to better the GH1, that was just never going to happen.

    All the latest tech will go into the GH2 towards the end of the year, with a price to match aswell.

    I'll be keeping my G1 until the G3 as i said before, the G1 is still a superb camera & will be for the next year or so & by which time the G3 should be a worthy upgrade, with much better AF, better ISO handling, better image quality from Jpeg, ect ect, which unlike the G2 is only going to be slightly better on ISO only.

    Until then i will continue to be happy with both my G1 & GF1 well into 2011.