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Comparison of 2 budget lenses

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by minibokeh, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. minibokeh

    minibokeh Guest

    Nocticron 42.5mm and Otus 55mm/Metabones Speedbooster on OM-D E-M1:

    Full picture:
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15218907662" title="on1 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 384619 "800" height="309" alt="on1"></a>

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15196262836" title="on2 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 384620 "800" height="478" alt="on2"></a>

    Some blur:
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15032718807" title="on4 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 384621 "800" height="477" alt="on4"></a>

    Bokeh torture test:
    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15218907282" title="on3 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 384622 "800" height="477" alt="on3"></a>

    Apart from losing miserably in this comparison, the PL is an OK lens which I'm going to keep for family snapshots :) 
  2. walter_j

    walter_j Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Sep 10, 2013
    Hagwilget, B.C., Canada
    Sorry, I can't see a whole lot of difference. Can you explain what you like about each? Both are dream lenses for me, and I cannot justify them for my cat pictures ;-)
  3. minibokeh

    minibokeh Guest

    big differences include
    - transition between sharp and out of focus areas
    - rendering of Bokeh
    - depth of field
    - resolution
    - micro contrast, including rendering of details in high contrast areas
    - color reproduction (both images are set to fixed "daylight" color temparature, not AWB)

    Nocticron is definitely good for cat pictures. Also, it catches up with the Otus somewhat for black and white pictures (... please take that as a totally subjective comment).
  4. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    I enjoy sarcasm, but I'm not sure which part of this post I should take seriously. :confused: 
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  5. EarthQuake

    EarthQuake Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Sep 30, 2013
    Which is which?
  6. silver92b

    silver92b Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    Pretty disappointing images IMHO, I'd stay away from those cheap lenses. :wink:

    (the images are pretty sorry)
  7. pdk42

    pdk42 One of the "Eh?" team Subscribing Member

    Jan 11, 2013
    Leamington Spa, UK
    Well, I guess they're just test shots, but I certainly can't conclude anything from them at all. I bet you'd see little difference with similar shots taken with the 45/1.8 and probably (apart from DOF differences) any of the kit zooms.
  8. flamingfish

    flamingfish Mu-43 All-Pro Subscribing Member

    Nov 16, 2012
    I'm assuming that the person whose "budget" this is -- is Bill Gates. (Does he even own a camera?) (To answer my own question -- yes, but he never uploads anything because his computer keeps crashing.)
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  9. minibokeh

    minibokeh Guest

    OK, challenge accepted. I'll shoot some "real world" comparisons next couple of days and post.
    @pdk42 - you're right that the PL 42.5 is closer to the OLY45 than it wants to be (for the money). You're mistaken if you're saying (?) that the PL 42.5 and the Otus are similarly close. The difference is quite significant. Again: I accept that the burden of proof is on me. Stay tuned.
  10. Paul80

    Paul80 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 6, 2014
    The trouble with this sort of thing is that the difference between lenses can be very subjective, what stands out for one photographer is completely pointless to another.

    For me its Bokeh, I never have understood the verging on paranoia discussions that go on between Nikon & Canon owners over this. But then as a long term Nikon user I suppose I wouldn't. ;) 

    Both lenses are well beyond my price range so its nice to see images that show I am not missing much by being a skint Photographer. :) 

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  11. manzoid

    manzoid Mu-43 Regular

    Jun 9, 2011
    Based on DOF, I'd guess the Otus is on the right. I actually prefer the ones on the left, not sure if it's because of DOF or something else though.
  12. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    I enjoyed this tongue-in-cheek posting of budget lens results.
    I assume they're both wide open, which shows a clear difference between 43mm and 55mm focal lengths for blur/separation, and the good quality of the Metabones focal reducer.

    Someone once posted me the 4/3rds Zuiko 50mmF2 by mistake so I did a couple of tests against my M.Zuiko 45mmF1.8 : this too showed more blur/separation from the longer focal length over the slight (declared) aperture difference.

    Post more stuff miniBokeh!
  13. orfeo

    orfeo Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Sep 27, 2013
    cat's eye bokeh on the left of the first shot, it's the PL!
    That kind of sample means very few.
  14. silver92b

    silver92b Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    I love good glass and great cameras as well as the next gear addict, but really, based on those images, neither lens would beat any number of old legacy glass I've tried and have laying around. Please don't take this as a criticism or a challenge, but have a look at what a Sigma 30mm f2.8 can do...https://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=47113&page=239&p=690500#post690500
    That's just a quick shot of a simple flower in the back deck...
  15. minibokeh

    minibokeh Guest

    OK, here we go with some more specific examples: Round 1 - Bokeh.
    This illustrates why I said that the PL was good for cat pictures ...

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15246386962" title="round-1-PL42.5-ZO55 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 385013 "1024" height="663" alt="round-1-PL42.5-ZO55"></a>
  16. silver92b

    silver92b Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 7, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    Pretty indistinguishable, but the Otus has it (on the right?)... However, the image below the letters clearly goes to the PL.
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  17. rklepper

    rklepper Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Dec 19, 2012
    Iowa, USA
    Are these cropped quite a bit? Because if they are not I would not be happy with either one.

  18. minibokeh

    minibokeh Guest

    answer to Doc - yes, cropped, 100% pixel peeping.

    Round 2 - out-of-focus depth transition
    Note: due to the shallow DOF, both images have a slightly different plane of focus. Since we have several rows of bottles, this image still illustrates IMHO the "roll off" from sharp to OOF - something one lens does better than the other. You could call this "3d effect".

    <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/101667287@N08/15077386799" title="composite-round2 by Moritz Berger, on Flickr"> View attachment 385282 "1130" height="1524" alt="composite-round2"></a>
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