cheap laying around camera

[kurt1968]

Hi , i have four young kids ,aged 6 to 14., and 4 cats too, and lots of nice flowers and a pond.
So there always is enough oppotunity to make some pics.
The 14 year old has a canon compact , i am amazed by her inventivity ,she uses reflection of a mirror , hard to explain as i normally speak Dutch.
Anyway , nice compositions, a shame of the bad image quality.
So i was looking for a cheap camera to be standby in the cupboard to let them shoot away .
110 € : mint G1 with kitlens or E-PL1 with kitlens.
175€ : mint E-PL3 + kitlens
I might ad a fast prime later(45MM F1.8?).

One thing to concider ; the 4 girls love to take selfportraits , they now use the delay timer .
The G series have a swivel screen , so they can compose realtime.
Does a wireless remote control exist for Lumix G series?
So :which camera(IQ wise) , and is a remote available?

 

[alex66]

You can get a remote wireless shutter release off the big auction site, I paid a couple of quid for each of mine, I would go for a G series though you could possibly get a G3 for not much more if you look around. I say the G series as they have a movable screen that allows you to compose with the cam on a tripod etc.

 

[kurt1968]

is there lots of difference in IQ between G1 /G3?

 

[sphexx]

The G1 is more versatile and given it has to suit several people that would be a factor. The original kitlens is better tha average. The G1 is dirt cheap now for what it does.

 

[alex66]

The G3 is better if there is less light, I would not have used my G1 when I had it above 400 asa but Ill happily use my G3's at 1600 asa, I am not sure if the 12-16 makes much of a difference to be honest if it does only slightly but the G3 is I think the best bargain in ILC cameras today.

 

[sphexx]

There is relatively no difference in IQ between any mu43 compared with the jump from Canon compact.

 

[Deleted member 20897]

I'm more partial to Olympus gear myself, so like the prospect of the EPL3.

 

[Ellsass]

There is relatively no difference in IQ between any mu43 compared withe jump from Canon compact.

Agreed. Go for whatever’s cheapest, thought it sounds like you’ll want that swivelling LCD.

 

[broody]

is there lots of difference in IQ between G1 /G3?

In low light there is plenty of difference in favor of the G3. Two models you should try and hunt down for a low price are the Panasonic G5 and the Olympus EPM-2. My opinion is that the G5 is the best camera for one on a budget!

 

[drd1135]

JMHO: All of the 12 mp mu43 sensors produce similar results in RAW. The earlier EP/EPL models were a bit slow to focus, but the PL3 was the first generation to have the faster AF. The G1, of course, has an EVF, DSLR ergonomics, and a swivel screen, whereas the EPL3 only has a tilt screen. On a purely subjective point, many like the OOC Olympus JPGS better than the Panasnoic. My two cents: If you shoot RAW, the G1 is probably a much better deal.

 

[stripedrex]

I don't know if you can import this at a useful cost but US olympus has a 15% off offer + epm2 with lens for about $170:
http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=194...m2-white-14-42mm-2r-silver-reconditioned.html

offercode: summer15

Sell the lens and you're close to $100 USD.

 

[kajunito]

If you are dutch, i saw yesterday in markplaats a gx1 for 100€ and a oly 45mm from same guy from 150€. I think thats a great starting point!


Enviado desde mi iPhone con Mu-43

 

[kurt1968]

- swivelling LCD indeed is important.
- touchscreen is cool for kids too
- G5 with kitlens is 350euros new
i don't PP ,so jpeg pulls me too Oly , but swivel+touch pulls me to G5.
But i guess G5's jpeg output can be finetuned as desired i guess?

 

[broody]

- swivelling LCD indeed is important.
- touchscreen is cool for kids too
- G5 with kitlens is 350euros new
i don't PP ,so jpeg pulls me too Oly , but swivel+touch pulls me to G5.
But i guess G5's jpeg output can be finetuned as desired i guess?

You have a choice to make then - Oly definitely has much better jpegs (yes, you can fine-tune output on all Lumix bodies, but you can do it too on Olys and it will still be better in the end), but you can' t get a swivel screen with them. You could stretch for an EPL5, or a cheapo EPL3 is ok. Also you should be able to find a G5 for cheaper than that if you still prefer the swivel screen.

 

[kurt1968]

finally i settled for a mint G5 for 240€?it will arrive next tuesday.
Today i will pick up a konica hexanon AR 50mm f1.4 for 25 €