cheap laying around camera

Discussion in 'This or That? (MFT only)' started by kurt1968, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. kurt1968

    kurt1968 Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2012
    Hi , i have four young kids ,aged 6 to 14., and 4 cats too, and lots of nice flowers and a pond.
    So there always is enough oppotunity to make some pics.
    The 14 year old has a canon compact , i am amazed by her inventivity ,she uses reflection of a mirror , hard to explain as i normally speak Dutch.
    Anyway , nice compositions, a shame of the bad image quality.
    So i was looking for a cheap camera to be standby in the cupboard to let them shoot away .
    110 € : mint G1 with kitlens or E-PL1 with kitlens.
    175€ : mint E-PL3 + kitlens
    I might ad a fast prime later(45MM F1.8?).

    One thing to concider ; the 4 girls love to take selfportraits , they now use the delay timer .
    The G series have a swivel screen , so they can compose realtime.
    Does a wireless remote control exist for Lumix G series?
    So :which camera(IQ wise) , and is a remote available?
     
  2. alex66

    alex66 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2010
    You can get a remote wireless shutter release off the big auction site, I paid a couple of quid for each of mine, I would go for a G series though you could possibly get a G3 for not much more if you look around. I say the G series as they have a movable screen that allows you to compose with the cam on a tripod etc.
     
  3. kurt1968

    kurt1968 Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2012
    is there lots of difference in IQ between G1 /G3?
     
  4. sphexx

    sphexx Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 19, 2010
    Harrogate, Yorkshire
    The G1 is more versatile and given it has to suit several people that would be a factor. The original kitlens is better tha average. The G1 is dirt cheap now for what it does.
     
  5. alex66

    alex66 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2010
    The G3 is better if there is less light, I would not have used my G1 when I had it above 400 asa but Ill happily use my G3's at 1600 asa, I am not sure if the 12-16 makes much of a difference to be honest if it does only slightly but the G3 is I think the best bargain in ILC cameras today.
     
  6. sphexx

    sphexx Mu-43 Regular

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    Feb 19, 2010
    Harrogate, Yorkshire
    There is relatively no difference in IQ between any mu43 compared with the jump from Canon compact.
     
  7. gryphon1911

    gryphon1911 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 13, 2014
    Central Ohio, USA
    Andrew
    I'm more partial to Olympus gear myself, so like the prospect of the EPL3.
     
  8. Ellsass

    Ellsass Mu-43 Regular

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    Apr 15, 2014
    Agreed. Go for whatever’s cheapest, thought it sounds like you’ll want that swivelling LCD.
     
  9. broody

    broody Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 8, 2013
    In low light there is plenty of difference in favor of the G3. Two models you should try and hunt down for a low price are the Panasonic G5 and the Olympus EPM-2. My opinion is that the G5 is the best camera for one on a budget!
     
  10. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter Subscribing Member

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    JMHO: All of the 12 mp mu43 sensors produce similar results in RAW. The earlier EP/EPL models were a bit slow to focus, but the PL3 was the first generation to have the faster AF. The G1, of course, has an EVF, DSLR ergonomics, and a swivel screen, whereas the EPL3 only has a tilt screen. On a purely subjective point, many like the OOC Olympus JPGS better than the Panasnoic. My two cents: If you shoot RAW, the G1 is probably a much better deal.
     
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  11. stripedrex

    stripedrex Do or do not. There is no try.

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    Jun 8, 2012
    Long Island, NY
    Alex
  12. kajunito

    kajunito Mu-43 Regular

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    Nov 6, 2012
    Amsterdam
    Luis
    If you are dutch, i saw yesterday in markplaats a gx1 for 100€ and a oly 45mm from same guy from 150€. I think thats a great starting point!


    Enviado desde mi iPhone con Mu-43
     
  13. kurt1968

    kurt1968 Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2012
    - swivelling LCD indeed is important.
    - touchscreen is cool for kids too
    - G5 with kitlens is 350euros new
    i don't PP ,so jpeg pulls me too Oly , but swivel+touch pulls me to G5.
    But i guess G5's jpeg output can be finetuned as desired i guess?
     
  14. broody

    broody Mu-43 Veteran

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    Sep 8, 2013
    You have a choice to make then - Oly definitely has much better jpegs (yes, you can fine-tune output on all Lumix bodies, but you can do it too on Olys and it will still be better in the end), but you can' t get a swivel screen with them. You could stretch for an EPL5, or a cheapo EPL3 is ok. Also you should be able to find a G5 for cheaper than that if you still prefer the swivel screen.
     
  15. kurt1968

    kurt1968 Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 30, 2012
    finally i settled for a mint G5 for 240€?it will arrive next tuesday.
    Today i will pick up a konica hexanon AR 50mm f1.4 for 25 €