Changing of the Light

Discussion in 'Scenic, Architecture, and Travel' started by Lili, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Lili

    Lili Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    e-pl1, 14-42mm kit lens, through window, hence the ghost Sun
     
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  2. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Hi Lili.....
    Geeze, it's really flat there huh? It almost looks like after pocylipse......
    The end of the old or The new beginning ....
     
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  3. Lili

    Lili Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Thanks Don, I had someone on flickr upset about the shadow noise in my E-PL1 images even at ISO 200.
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    Banal shot but do you see this in either of these shots?
     
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  4. Brianetta

    Brianetta Mu-43 Veteran

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    I see it all over the sky in the first photo, and perhaps in the paint on the car in the second. It would probably be much more noticeable if viewed full size. My E-P1 is noisy that way too.

    Here's the thing, though - I don't think it's just sensor noise. I have the same lens as you, and it's noisy. When I took a couple of photos with a borrowed Panasonic 20mm, and when I use my adapted Pentax 50mm, I get much less noise at the same ISO. The difference is jaw-dropping.

    I don't know what the mechanics of noise production is in this case. After getting my E-P1, I was initially disappointed that my images were noisier than what I was getting with my five year old Kodak EasyShare. Now I'm just disappointed that the kit lens has disadvantages that nearly balance out its advantages.
     
  5. Lili

    Lili Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Brianetta, after reading your reply, I tried it with my 17mm pancake, the noise grows as the aperture shrinks; esp in the shadows.
    Please note I only really notice it when viewed at 100%, ah the bane of pixel peeping!
     
  6. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    Lili... Your real good at what you do.
    Just do it and don't let others opinions steer you.
    I do mostly B&W so noise converts to grain. Even in my color stuff, I add grain to use the noise.
    Remember the film daze......?
    I really like you being here.
    Your pal...don
     
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  7. Lili

    Lili Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

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    Thanks Don, I am playing also with the NR abnd noise filter settings.
    I like the detail I get in my e410/510, the noise there looks like grain too and that is OK by my.
    Far better than blotching.
    One good thing, I forgot just how sharp the pancake is. Nice to have it back on the cam...
     
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  8. johnny9fingers

    johnny9fingers Mu-43 Veteran Charter Member

    Noise, grain?? How bout we just call it texture? Whatever it is I like it in my photos and in yours. I have the noise filter turned off in my E-PL1 and am more than happy with the results.....
    John
     
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  9. Streetshooter

    Streetshooter Administrator Emeritus Subscribing Member Charter Member

    Dec 15, 2009
    Phila, Pa USA
    John,
    There's no room for anything practical or logical amongst pixel peepers.
    But of course I agree with you and welcome your input on the forums.
    Don