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Showcase Canon (TV-16) 50mm f1.4 C-mount

Discussion in 'Adapted Lens Sample Image Showcase' started by gnarlydog australia, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    In the eternal quest to find that compact lens that is manual focus, sharp-ish, and not bulky I have been looking at vintage lenses that are designed for smaller formats than 35mm film, namely C-mount lenses. I am satisfied with the Pentax-Cosmicar 50mm f1.4 for closer subjects but further away and the focusing/render is not good.
    After seeing sample of Flickr, I had to try the Canon TV-16 50mm f1.4 hoping that will give me decent sharpness even at infinity.
    A quick test tonite before dark reveals that this lens has great potential :dance4:
    Colors are warm, focusing is easy and pretty sharp, bokeh is smooth and not too weird (unlike the Cosmicar!) while still giving me nice distorted bokeh balls on the edges when defocused on speckled highlight.
    Here are a few samples and hopefully more to come.
    BTW, that lens just screws onto a standard C-mount adapter (eBay offering from China) , no need to modify/adjust anything.

    29794687873_723609180d_c. E-P5 with Canon TV-16 50mm by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    These are straight out of camera JPG, no edit, white balance set to daylight (although it was late in the afternoon) with aperture wide open at f1.4

    29750610913_f1062086fa_h. JX177213 by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    30382226755_d7a1a0706b_h. JX177221 by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    30346643536_3efbc545bb_h. JX177257 by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    and the mandatory "brick wall" at f2.8 for the more technically inclined folk :hide:

    29752028264_c2fc51eae5_h. JX177183 by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  2. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    this lens can be sharp even wide open. The bokeh is exactly what I desire: speckled highlights become soap bubbles with edge ones getting ovalized to create a hint of swirl while other areas remain pretty creamy; a nice blend without being too extreme (unlike my Cosmicar 50mm f1.4)

    30389936736_8a01607831_h. Jacaranda flowers bokeh_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  3. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    God, you're addicted aren't you...

    ;-)

    So, total coverage?

    Looks good
     
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  4. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    I think addiction is the right word :crying:
    This lens is going to prompt me to start to sell some glass that I don't care much for (so far I have been hanging onto my "precious") to make room for new ones?
    Yes, the Canon TV-16 50mm f1.4 covers the whole frame, no vignette and edges are decent, even wide open.
    While the Cosmicar gives me crazy bokeh is not a walkabout lens, more a specific project-in-mind one.
    I am afraid the other 50mm f1.4 (SMC Takumar) might have to go :(
     
  5. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    but we loves our lenses ...

    que Steven Spielberg pan in - zoom out of the face screaming "Noooooooooo"

    its always worth hanging onto the few that are great that just don't bring in money to sell.

    My first legacy glass was a FD50f1.8 ... then I got the OM50f1.8 and the FD sat on the shelf, then (as I had the Ceicio7 FD adapter I tried the nFD50f1.4 and loved it. But its just not worth the bulk and weight for the OM50f1.8 which is as sharp as it (well mine is)

    If only I felt as good about the OM200f4 as I do about the nFD200f4 I could standardise on OM and have one ring (adapter) to rule them all...

    if only I could find an OM adapter as precise as the Ceicio7 one is (for FD) ... and if only the OM300f4.5 was as sweet as the nFD300f4

    ... if only
     
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  6. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    so, you don't feel over the moon with the OM200mm f4? and I thought it was just my copy...
    FD much nicer?
     
  7. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    a few more images from the sharp Canon TV-16 50mm f1.4 @f2

    30186902970_8460d94f91_h. Old fence post_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    30368757912_2a15643298_h. Mating butterflies_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr
     
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  8. pellicle

    pellicle Mu-43 All-Pro

    Feb 10, 2010
    Southport, OzTrailEYa
    pellicle
    Yeah, I sold it fairly soon.

    Be careful with picking a FD200f4 as there are at least 3 variants. You want the new FD version (nFD) that has IF (inner focus).

    Better design lighter and smoother operation

    This one
    New FD200mm f/4 - Canon Camera Museum

    Not this one
    FD200mm f/4 - Canon Camera Museum
     
  9. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
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    Damiano Visocnik
    here are two images taken at dusk to see how those speckled highlights from street/house lights are rendered
    wide open at f1.4
    29870684754_139f1461be_b. bokeh balls Canon TV-16 50mm by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    and at f2, showing the iris design of 10 blades
    30414665451_0ef99813e4_b. bokeh balls Canon TV-16 50_f2mm by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    While more blades is better than fewer it still doesn't match the perfectly round circles of some vintage 15 blade lenses :(
    Honestly, this would be only practically visible with night shots, as during the day the light usually blurs out the edges of out of focus speckled highlight
    Then again, generally speaking, I seek fast shutter speeds over depth of field in night photography so those round (or oval) bubbles will still be present :)
    If I want smaller round bubbles and more depth of field then the Helios 44-7 might come out on a night walk. At f2 it's just one stop slower...
     
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  10. Crdome

    Crdome Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 11, 2011
    West Central Indiana
    Chrome
    Pretty amazing!
     
  11. Aushiker

    Aushiker Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Sep 12, 2014
    Fremantle, Western Australia
    Andrew
    Just poked around e-Bay ... pricey little things. I guess one must wait or search around for a bargain.
     
  12. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2015
    Brisbane, Australia
    Damiano Visocnik
    I paid for mine about as much as my SMC Takumar 50mm f1.4
    Some of the listings are indeed a bit steep but that doesn't mean they sell. If I look at "sold" items then I get a more realistic market price.
    There is one currently in New York City for $89 with a tiny scratch on the front element that most likely will not show up in images (or pristine ones for a bit more)
     
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  13. gnarlydog australia

    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Damiano Visocnik
    Although with a fair bit different in size, I wanted to compare the Canon TV-16 to my smallest 50mm lens: the Pentax-110 50mm f2.8
    I knew that the Pentax-110 was fairly distorted and soft on the edges so I made an adapter with an adjustable diaphragm (12 blades) and compared to the Canon at the same aperture value, wide open and then stopped down.
    Here are crops from the centre
    30136585894_941fe0024e_h. Pentax_Canon Tv_comparison by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    and here, much more compelling, crops from the edge
    30731728256_93d29a8588_h. Pentax_Canon TV_comparison edge_c by gnarlydog, on Flickr

    the evidence points that the Canon is indeed not your ordinary C-mount lens...
     
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    gnarlydog australia Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Damiano Visocnik
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