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Can a m4/3'rds camera match this?

Discussion in 'Open Discussion' started by digitalandfilm, Nov 25, 2011.

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  1. digitalandfilm

    digitalandfilm Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jul 18, 2011
    Here's a photo from an APS-C sensor camera:

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    Can anyone post up a similar shot from a :43: sensor camera?
     
  2. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    What's so impressive about it? An M43 camera can easily do that.
     
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  3. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I never understand these posts, but the 25mm 1.4 will do this pretty easily

    What's the EXIF on that shot?

    Sent from my iPhone using Mu-43 App
     
  4. Jonathan F/2

    Jonathan F/2 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 10, 2011
    M43 and APS-C aren't far off. The only problem with M43 is that there aren't as many sensor choices unlike APS-C sized sensors, hence more competitive innovation in that size. Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Samsung, etc. all make variations of APS-C sensors. As far as I know, Panasonic and (Kodak at one point) make M43 sensors.
     
  5. digitalandfilm

    digitalandfilm Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jul 18, 2011
    I see much more color depth and dynamic range.. from the blacks to the reds.

    m4/3rds seem to be a bit flatter with less dynamic range.
     
  6. MrDoug

    MrDoug Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Sep 5, 2011
    Boise, Idaho
    +1.. what is so HOT about that..?
     
  7. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    I'm not quite sure what 'this' is, because in terms of colour depth and dynamic range, the image you've posted has blown reds and black shadows - it looks like a file that has been pushed a little with Levels or Curves in post (I like the look, but pretty much any large sensor (and many small sensor) bodies could do this...

    Anyway, here's what a GH2 can do with flowers and stuff...

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    DMC-GH2    ---    0mm    f/1.0    1/1600s    ISO 160


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  8. Brian S

    Brian S Mu-43 Top Veteran

    714
    Apr 11, 2009
    Olympus EP-2 with Pentax 85/4.5 Ultra-Achromat.

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    Stress test for a 75 year old lens on the EP2.

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    1936 Carl Zeiss Sonnar 5cm F1.5, wide-open at F1.5. this lens is from a test batch of coated lenses.

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    same lens at F4.

    My EP2 used at ISO 200 shows more noise in the shadow areas than my Leica M8 used at ISO 160.
     
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  9. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    Unless you took the same shot with an m43 at the same time, you really can't make that statement. Comparing a different subject, shot at a different time and place, in different light, isn't a meaningful comparison.
     
  10. Brian S

    Brian S Mu-43 Top Veteran

    714
    Apr 11, 2009
    EP2 with 5cm F2 Sonnar, coated, at F4. ISO 200.

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    Post War Carl Zeiss 50mm F1.5, wide-open on the Leica M8, ISO 160.

    This is the Mid 1950s West German Sonnar, on an Amedeo adapter.

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    I've used the same lenses on the EP2, M8, and M9. Not a lot of difference at these resolutions.
     
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  11. digitalandfilm

    digitalandfilm Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jul 18, 2011
    The reds with m4/3'rds are nice, but seem to lack punch in depth and dynamic range.

    I shot this with the GH2

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  12. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Legend Subscribing Member

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I thought you meant DOF.

    Yes, I would agree to certain extent, especially when compared to a Pen sensor, the modern APS-C sensors have a bit more color depth, and tend to have more solid blacks. The real difference, in my experience, though is from m43 and APS-C to full frame.

    But you can come pretty close to APS-C with m43. The difference is there and can be noticeable, but isn't HUGE.
     
  13. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

    May 4, 2011
    Texas
    If you're talking colors, then I'll take my Foveon based Sigma DP2 :smile:
     
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  14. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
    Do you shoot RAW or jpeg, and if RAW, which program to you use to process them?
     
  15. meyerweb

    meyerweb Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Sep 5, 2011
  16. pjohngren

    pjohngren Mu-43 Top Veteran

    560
    Oct 15, 2010
    There is no way you can tell which size sensor was used - the m4/3 sensors are now equally as good as the APS-C sensors. And in the ratio of quality to camera bulk, it is no contest.
     
  17. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

    May 4, 2011
    Texas
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  18. nickthetasmaniac

    nickthetasmaniac Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 11, 2011
  19. If only it were possible to buy a foveon sensor in a camera not made by Sigma. I don't quite know whether they have no inclination to sell the technology, or no one else has the inclination to buy it...
     
  20. RT_Panther

    RT_Panther Mu-43 Legend

    May 4, 2011
    Texas
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