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Blackmagic Design Micro 4/3 Pocket Cinema Camera

Discussion in 'Micro 4/3 News and Rumors' started by danimal, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. danimal

    danimal Mu-43 Supporter

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    Dec 31, 2012
    Oakland, California
    Dan
    Blackmagic Design is announcing two new cameras at NAB. One is a $995 Pocket Cinema camera that uses Micro Four Thirds lenses. I haven't found other details yet and this image is a little hard to read. It will be interesting to see more in a day or two.

    http://twitter.com/danielogarcia1/status/321090242746654721

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    From Blackmagic billboard:
    Now available for pre-order: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Shop-by-Brand-Blackmagic-Design/ci/4/phd/4291585331/N/4294255798

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  2. pxpaulx

    pxpaulx Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jan 19, 2010
    Midwest
    Paul
    I'm surprised nobody else has commented on this! I saw it posted over at pentax forums and thought there would've been at least a page long threat by now. If you click on the photo to enlarge it, you can see that it says the new $995 camera is an active micro 4/3 mount compatible with currently available micro 4/3 lenses. This should be interesting for those interested primarily in video.
     
  3. BLT

    BLT Mu-43 Regular

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    Jan 13, 2013
    London
    James
    It has a Super 16 sensor is near half the size of M43 sensor though. .. Still pretty interesting!

    Micro 43s goes form strength to strength!!!
     
  4. homerusan

    homerusan Mu-43 Regular

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    Dec 25, 2012
    izmir, TURKEY
    Thats a milestone i think for raw video recording in small size cam
     
  5. Repp

    Repp Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 27, 2011
    Oak Harbor, WA
    Very cool indeed. I'm not really into video at the moment, but the idea does intrigue me a bit after reading into all of the Hybrid photography stuff... It will be interesting to see what the future holds.
     
  6. MrKal_El

    MrKal_El Mu-43 Top Veteran

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  7. teddoman

    teddoman Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 22, 2013
    nyc
    At $1000, this kind of cam sounds amazing. Wow. 14 bit color? Versus 8 bit at best on current cameras.
     
  8. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Promit Roy
    The Pocket Cinema camera. I. NEED. IT.
    (Fingers crossed for 1080p/60. I need that too.)

    Actually I'm a little worried about the crop factor -- Super 16 is apparently quite a lot smaller than m4/3. 12.51mm x 7.41mm, versus 17.3x13 for the regular four thirds sensor.
     
  9. danimal

    danimal Mu-43 Supporter

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    Dec 31, 2012
    Oakland, California
    Dan
    I wouldn't be worried about the sensor size for cinema, but for stills I would. For being able to have a pocketable Super 16 that shoots in RAW for about $1K, I'm intrigued.


    If anyone wants to see the RAW workflow from the previous generation of BMD camera Stu Maschwitz talks about using one with Lightroom and After Effects here: http://prolost.com/blog/2012/12/19/lets-cook.html
     
  10. DeeJayK

    DeeJayK Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 8, 2011
    Pacific Northwest, USA
    Keith
    What does the smaller Super 16 sensor mean in terms of effective focal length? If the sensor is 2/3 the size of :43: does that make a 12mm wide angle into an (effective) 18mm?
     
  11. teddoman

    teddoman Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 22, 2013
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    I have been wondering how RAW works for video. Very interesting read. I didn't realize RAW for video basically means shooting a zillion still RAWs. The fact that video RAW can be processed in LR4 is great for photographers trying to learn video.
     
  12. dhazeghi

    dhazeghi Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 6, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Dara
    No, all m4/3 (and 4/3) are 12-bit. In most cases that I've seen tested, the extra 2-bits store little meaningful information. Perhaps BlackMagic will be the exception though.
     
  13. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Oct 15, 2012
    Sherbrooke, Canada
    Eric Cote
    Product link but it says Service Unavailable so I guess it is so interesting that the traffic took the site down... hehe

    http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/bmpcc/

    It seems VERY interesting, especially at this price. I cross my fingers for 60 or 120 fps. At this price, you could easily get 2 or 3 of those.
     
  14. dornblaser

    dornblaser Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Aug 13, 2012
    Chicago-area
    David Dornblaser
    I watched the Engadget video. It is a very cool camera. It should also boost the sales of large external drives. :eek: It will be interesting to see how this camera does versus the hybrid cameras, e.g. GH3.
     
  15. teddoman

    teddoman Mu-43 Regular

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    Mar 22, 2013
    nyc
    I know 12 or 14 bit is common for stills, but for video? My understanding was that most cameras record to internal memory at 4:2:0 chroma subsampling with 8 bit color fidelity and that 4:2:2 at 10 bit is not available on most DSLRs even.

    I can't really confirm this though, video recording specs don't seem to get discussed on most camera reviews or listed on a camera's tech specs.

    According to the BMCC specs, BMCC uses 4:2:2 with Apple ProRes (10 bit?), or lossless RAW. Doesn't specify exactly what lossless RAW entails.
     
  16. Talanis

    Talanis Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Oct 15, 2012
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    Eric Cote
    only 24 to 30 fps unfortunately :(
    Still a really nice camera though
     
  17. Promit

    Promit Mu-43 All-Pro

    Jun 6, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Promit Roy
    Some of the newer DSLRs, like the D800, are able to output 4:2:2 at 10 bits from the HDMI port but internally record at 4:2:0 8 bit. I believe the BM camera will record 4:2:2 ProRes (10-bit) internally and output 4:2:2 14 bit over...not sure, some HD-SDI variant?
     
  18. klee

    klee Mu-43 Veteran

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    Mar 20, 2013
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    Kevin