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Better lens to replace Konica 40mm, 50mm, & 57mm?

Discussion in 'Adapted Lenses' started by jambaj0e, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. jambaj0e

    jambaj0e Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 31, 2010
    So I've had the Konica Hexanon 40mm f1.8, 50 f1.7 and a 57mm f1.4 for almost half a year now, with the 50mm being the newest at 3 months.

    For the most part, I like the sharpness, speed, contrast (when stopped down) and quality of the photos that I can take w/ each lens, but I feel that the bokeh is rather lacking for each lens. They just don't have that rich, creamy bokeh that I've seen in Nikon/Canon lens. Granted, I didn't pay nowhere close to some of their lenses, of course.


    Are there any good particular lenses that you think would could match the sharpness, stopped-down contrast, aperture and quality of these lens, but could also deliver creamier bokeh?

    I'm looking for specifically a 40-45mm fast lens.

    Thanks guys!!
     
  2. chrism_scotland

    chrism_scotland Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jun 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    I'd have thought maybe an OM 50mm? could do the trick or a Canon FD 50mm, both some in f1.8 and f1.4 variants, I'd guess you'd want the f1.4
     
  3. jambaj0e

    jambaj0e Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 31, 2010
    Do they have something fast in 40-45mm?
     
  4. drpump

    drpump Mu-43 Regular

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    Oct 28, 2010
    The Pentax 50mm f/1.7 gets good reviews and is relatively inexpensive (around $60-80 on eBay). I have one but haven't done enough with it to have a strong opinion about the bokeh.
     
  5. chrism_scotland

    chrism_scotland Mu-43 Veteran

    483
    Jun 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Having a look through the lens sample gallery the Canon FD seems to go from 35mm to 50mm so no 40/45

    Only other 40/45 aside from the Hexanon I know of is the Minolta MD Rokkor 45, or a Pentax DA Ltd 40mm which is a current lens but at f2.8 its not as fast as the Hexanon 40mm you already have.
     
  6. Ulfric M Douglas

    Ulfric M Douglas Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Mar 6, 2010
    Northumberland
    Hey Joe, I just did a quick test with five lenses.
    Although out of your focal range my Helios44 (58mm, F2) has a smoothest out-of-focus areas, and is sharp at 2.8 while 'glowing' at F2.
     
  7. Markb

    Markb Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jun 9, 2011
    Kent, UK
    Mark
    Rich, creamy bokeh? 50mm Summicron. Any 50mm Summicron. This is a recent version on 35mm (probably Tri-x) but the collapsible version I paid GBP150 for was just as nice and actually better for b/w work due to slightly lower contrast. Very nice for people.

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    For less money, here's a Zuiko mij 50/1.8. Definitely Japanese but still nice. This is on 4/3 (Olympus e-520, eBay adapter).

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  8. brunerww

    brunerww  

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    Mar 5, 2011
    j0e - I have the Hexanon 40/1.8 and a Canon FD 50/1.8 and you're right about the Hexanon. The FD is definitely smoother than the Konica. That said, I plan to sell both of them (and their adapters) and buy the new $400 Olympus 45/1.8 when it ships. Oly makes great lenses, and, after 6 months of fun, nostalgia and out-of-focus shots with legacy manual lenses, I'm ready to go back to full auto :)

    Cheers,

    Bill
    Hybrid Camera Revolution
     
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  9. Psynema

    Psynema Mu-43 Regular

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    May 14, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Gary Hanna
    40mm IMO is overrated and a POS, never tried the 50mm but can't believe you don't really like the 57mm - which I love. Bokeh is fine so long as you're close enough. The issue IMO is the 2x crop factor. That 57mm will give you creamy bokeh at a wider image on a full frame camera, wherease it will give creamy bokeh for portraits/head shots on m4/3. If you want full/upper body shots w/ bokeh, get a 100-135mm lens, if that makes any sense. But so far I'm pleased with 57mm 1.4s bokeh - the 1.2 version is supposed to be better bokeh wise so maybe get that and ebay the three hexanons to help pay for 1/3 of the 1.2
     
  10. jambaj0e

    jambaj0e Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Aug 31, 2010
    I actually have a pre-order for that Olympus lens. I am hoping that it will be good enough to replace all three lenses. Yea, the missed focus due to manual focus does get pretty sore after a while
     
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  11. chrism_scotland

    chrism_scotland Mu-43 Veteran

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    Jun 1, 2011
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    I never really saw the attraction of the 45mm but after a couple of days playing with a Canon 50mm FD I think I might be making a pre-order if the price remains good when its released in the UK.
     
  12. WT21

    WT21 Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Feb 19, 2010
    Boston
    I tried a bunch of legacy 50s. I think the Takumar was my favorite, but too soft wide open. The FD was best in color and contrast, but it was heavy and the mounts I find fiddly. I sold all my legacy glass (except my OM 50 macro) a few months back, and decided to just wait for native lenses. I think the wait will be richly rewarded!
     
  13. thearne3

    thearne3 Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 28, 2010
    Redding, CT USA
    I'll put in a vote for the Pen F lenses: 38mm f1.8, or the 40mm f1.4. I have the former. Very compact! I prefer the Pen to the Hexanon 40.
     
  14. theunartist

    theunartist Mu-43 Regular

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    Jul 5, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    I only know Pentax lenses and can personally recommend these 2; these shot with lenses wide open...

    Pentax-M 50 f1.7 (k mount) this lens is a cult classic among Pentax users. Can be had pretty cheap < $60 and meters well on m4/3
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    Super Takumar 50 f1.4 (m42 mount) another cult classic and I think this one maybe a bit sharper wide open v the M 50, but we're only talking a few hairs. <$80
    TAK5014-2.

    I have not run into a good Pentax 40mm lens, but can also highly recommend the DA 35mm 2.4 L @ $180 it's new and an AF. There should be a ton of lenses in the 50mm range that can produce exquisite bokeh...
     
  15. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    Steve
    You could also get one of the older Pentax M 40 2.8. It would be cheaper and neither lens would AF anyway.

    Update: I checked KEH and the M 40 is $133 and the M 501.7 is 43. Given the $$ difference, the 50 is a no brainer. I currently have the A 50 1.7 which is quite nice.
     
  16. Markb

    Markb Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jun 9, 2011
    Kent, UK
    Mark
    The Pentax 40/2.8 pancake is a cult lens that doesn't deserve its reputation. The 50/1.7 or 50/2 are better and much cheaper. The 50/2 isn't even that much bigger! I've had all three back when I used K mount gear. The only advantage to the 40 was that you could get an ME or MX body into a coat pocket with that lens mounted.
     
  17. pauljdsn

    pauljdsn New to Mu-43

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    Feb 14, 2011
    You should take a look at a Voigtlander 50mm f/1.1


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  18. Grinch

    Grinch Mu-43 Top Veteran

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    Jan 9, 2011
    Canada
    Not in your range, but the rokkor 58 1.2 has creamy bokeh I think you'd like. Google rokkorfiles they have a few comparisons one being bokeh, of the rokkors. Good luck with your search.