Best Wide/Normal Fast Prime? Panny 20mm, Panny Leica 25mm, Oly 17mm

Discussion in 'Native Lenses' started by norazi, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. norazi

    norazi Mu-43 Rookie

    Jun 17, 2013
    I currently have the Panny 20mm f1.7 and the 25mm f1.4 that I use 95% of the time as my daily walk around lens. I use the 20mm pancake if I need absolute portability or if I know there will be good lighting for the AF. For indoors and fast movement I use the 25mm lens. I have been thinking about ditching both for the 17mm f1.8 Olympus-Zuiko lens since it seems to be more portable and cheaper compared to the 25mm but with much faster AF compared to the 20mm at the expense of some IQ

    If you had to use one of these 3 lenses solely, which would it be?
  2. Superstriker#8

    Superstriker#8 Mu-43 Regular

    Jun 24, 2013
    If I had to pick just one, it would probably be the Oly, but I would definitely pick the Pana/Lecia or the new Oly 25 if I had a wide, like the 14mm f2.5 or 12mm f2, or even the wide end of a kit lens, which is what I have now, and I am planning to get the 25mm f1.8.
  3. DynaSport

    DynaSport Mu-43 Hall of Famer

    Jan 5, 2013
    PL25. No question for me.
  4. kevinparis

    kevinparis Cantankerous Scotsman Subscribing Member

    Feb 12, 2010
    Gent, Belgium
    Have all these lenses... the Oly is the one I use the most these days, but each has their plus points....

    I have been surprised how much I have used it... and how seldom i reach for the 25.

    I could probably live right now with just the 17 and the 75... but thats just me.. your needs may vary.

    the best is the one that gets you the photos you want, regardless of what pixel peepers and scrutinisers of brick walls and test charts may say

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  5. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines

    If you use the 20 and 25 95% of the time, why will you ditch them? I think they are both one of the fav lenses in this forum for years. I'll only get the 17mm if I absolutely need the wider 35mm. But 40mm and 50mm are very versatile. I say don't ditch both, if ever, just one of them. 17 + 25 will be a good combo. Good luck!
  6. zulfur666

    zulfur666 Mu-43 Veteran

    Jan 30, 2014
    none of them listed are "wide" perhaps normal. But wide? the 12mm is wide IMO. But as a normal "fast" prime the PL 25 f/1.4 is my fav by far
    an example...

  7. jamespetts

    jamespetts Mu-43 Top Veteran

    May 21, 2011
    London, England
    What is "best" depends on the use case; but you are missing the new Olympus 25mm f/1.8 from the list.
  8. norazi

    norazi Mu-43 Rookie

    Jun 17, 2013
    thats obvious, hence the reason i have both the 20mm and the 25mm, my question is which is the best overall considering the use cases

    i was under the impression that the PL25 is superior to the Oly 25 in every stat, so no point in having it in the list

    Panny 20mm... compact, cheap, great IQ, slow
    Panny 25mm... large, expensive, great IQ, f1.4, quick AF
    Oly 17mm... medium size, expensive, good IQ, fast AF
  9. spatulaboy

    spatulaboy I'm not really here Subscribing Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    North Carolina
    Why not just pick up the 14mm f2.5 if you want something wider to complement your PL25?
  10. fin azvandi

    fin azvandi Mu-43 All-Pro

    Mar 12, 2011
    South Bend, IN
    It remains to be seen how the Oly 25/1.8 compares to the PL 25/1.4 beyond a few "first impressions" reviews. We know the Oly is smaller and less expensive - if you're looking for a cheaper and faster-focusing replacement for your PL 25 than the Oly 25 probably deserves consideration.
  11. svenkarma

    svenkarma Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Feb 5, 2013
    mark evans
    The PL 25 sure does polarize opinion.

    FWIW I agree with Kevin, for all its technical virtues.

    I just bought a Sigma 30/2.8 off a fellow who was selling it because now he has a 25/1.4, but even after a week I find it more ... well, Spanish speakers will know what I mean ... simpatico.
  12. biomed

    biomed Mu-43 Hall of Famer Subscribing Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    Seattle area
    The Olympus 25/1.8 and the Panasonic 25/1.4 are very close to each other in performance. I have owned the Panasonic 25 for more than a year and really love the lens. I bought it when the price was much lower than it is today. I think the Oly lens will sell well because of the lower cost. The Sigma 30/2.8 should not be ignored. Although not as fast as the 25s it is nearly as sharp. The 2.8 max aperture would serve well in most situations. The slightly longer FL would make a better choice for portraits over either of the 25s. It is also very well made. At less than $200 it offers a lot of bang for the buck.
  13. Jay86

    Jay86 Mu-43 Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    I would go for the PL25mm or the new Oly 25mm personally.
  14. xdayv

    xdayv Color Blind

    Aug 26, 2011
    Tacloban City, Philippines
    Best is relative.

    Depending on the level of importance in terms of IQ and size:

    On pure IQ - I think the PL25 stands out.

    On size - the 20.

    and the new Oly 25 in between both.

  15. Canonista

    Canonista Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Sep 3, 2011
    As the saying goes, different horses for different courses. Otherwise, it's a matter of preference. I have the 17mm and 20mm, but would not buy a 25mm as I find the FOV too narrow for my tastes (I have a 50mm in Canon mount, and have hardly used it in 10 years of ownership). As between the 17 and 20, I would choose the 17 simply because the AF on the 20 can drive one mad when the light level is low. From a IQ standpoint, the 17 is not as bad as some folks would make you believe. See Pekka Potka's review of the two lenses:
  16. Johnny_Alucard

    Johnny_Alucard Mu-43 Veteran

    Apr 28, 2013
    I've owned all 3, the only one I still have is the Oly 17 - enough said. BUT, I love the 50mm focal length, so I will be giving the Oly 25 a go.

    As someone else said, why not try the Panny 14 - it's very good for such a cheap lens.
  17. drd1135

    drd1135 Zen Snapshooter

    Mar 17, 2011
    Southwest Virginia
    No vote here, but it does seem odd to ditch your two favorite lenses for something wider in favor of portability and faster AF. If that's your need, then you could also ditch both and buy the Oly 25 which is a similar FL to the ones you currently use and "seems" to have similar IQ. For me, the big reason to get the 17 would be the wider FL if that;'s how you shoot. JMHO.
  18. Amin Sabet

    Amin Sabet Administrator

    Apr 10, 2009
    Boston, MA (USA)
    I feel exactly the same way.
  19. dav1dz

    dav1dz Mu-43 Top Veteran

    Nov 6, 2012
    I do miss f/1.4 once in a while but for me the 35/90 mm-e FOV is so versatile as a primes kit. It took me some buying/selling to get to this point but I'm glad.

    High ISO on these cameras are so much better than my previous APS-C Nikon kit. I have no problems with Auto ISO bumping it quickly to 3200.
  20. Muntjack

    Muntjack Mu-43 Veteran

    Jul 26, 2010
    I'm trying really hard to love my 17mm f1.8 but it hasn't clicked with me yet. Along with the 45-200 it is the only lens in MFT that has disappointed at all. Indoor shots at reasonably high ISO tend to come out mushy and in decent light it is good but not outstanding. I am tempted to say that the 12-50 may be as sharp at 17mm. I was always pleasantly surprised at that kit lens.
    It is such a useful FL and a beautiful size for walkaround. I truly want to like it and will persevere.
    The PL25 on the other hand never disappoints and is easily my best lens.
    The Oly 45 is great apart from tendency to flare (but this only a specialist lens for me and not an everyday carry.)